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NEW 2 days ago #7555

Just to weigh in, there is no rule about making money with your bot. The rule is that you don't post advertisements on the forum, or use the site's person-to-person chat system to advertise.


NEW 2 days ago #7556

@jerkbag - regardless of who it was at, you're coming off extremely aggressive at someone simply asking a question. You guys are right, there probably isn't any rule against it. No reason to call someone a misogynist about it.


NEW 2 days ago #7557

I have to agree re: Patreon Kayla. There don't appear to be rules against it, but it somehow feels as if it's not really in the spirit of this site to monetise content in this way. Bots hidden behind paywalls - if more people did this then a dwindling platform would just die.


NEW 1 day ago #7558

There's going to be offsite advertising bringing in NEW people to the Forge, some of those people are going to go 'oh wow i can do this?' and build bots themselves. Instead of feeling disheartened, others might look to that botmaster as example of what building a quality bot can lead to. If I was the site owner, I would be really excited right now. This is the first time anything on the Forge has turned a profit (to my knowledge). This could lead to some really cool stuff happening. The ONLY ones this is bad for is anyone underage or too broke to buy the average cost of a coffee once a month.


NEW 1 day ago #7559

@Jerkbag - It's not offsite advertising though. It's bot that has it's own dedicated patreon page. If you didn't already know about the existence of the bot from having been on Personality Forge, then you wouldn't find it. There's no external signposting to the site, it's vice versa.


NEW 1 day ago #7560

@Muntah - You're missing what I'm saying. The bot only went patreon like what? a few days ago? Obviously there is a finite amount of people organically within the Forge, and the botmaster probably wants to start with their already established fan base to get the ball rolling. Anyone serious about this would very likely advertise offsite for Kayla somewhere on the net when they're ready to promote. So yeah, I'd say you could probably expect some new blood in the Forge because of this when they start promoting. Whether it be new users testing our bots, or trying to make something cool themselves. Anyway, that's all I've got to say about the Kayla bot. Obviously I'm a fan and hope to see more cool developments like this in the forge.


NEW 1 day ago #7561

tbh I kinda feel like this it would make people think there is going to be more bots behind paywalls lol, imagine paying to chat with a bot, I think that this is the only bot that is asking for money, but still there is a lot of guests that chat with bots that don't bother making an account mostly because they think information would be stolen or something, I do have my bot say that guests should always make an account incase they delete the broswer data and the bots forget about them, and plus the site could use more members, but paying to use a bot its practically making money off of the creator of this site. idek how to report this because, the creator of this site only checks emails every few months


NEW 1 day ago #7562

@jerkbag - Ahhhhh it all become clear now! You're Kayla's creator! lol - Sorry fella, but I don't agree with what you're doing. I agree with Warrior25 that you seem to be trying to cash in on the Forge's creator. Hard Pass.


NEW 1 day ago #7563

After you're done reporting that, you should go to Amazon and report all the kindle books. No one should get paid for their writing! It's a travesty and a crime! The audacity for someone to think I should have to pay to read their book.. harumph!! Then, let's storm the newspapers for charging us for the sunday funnys!


NEW 1 day ago #7564

@Muntah Nah, I'm just a guy who paid for my cup of coffee and feeling a little pissy at kids trying to knock it out of my hands. But whatever


NEW 1 day ago #7565

So you're paying this site's creator a cut of your takings from the Patreons? I've no intention of flagging to the sites owner, others may do though. Just as I said, hard pass from me.


NEW 1 day ago #7566

@Jerkbag - No... you really are her creator - it clearly says so in your profile! lol


NEW 1 day ago #7567

Yeah, sorry jerkbag, but if you search on the user list then you can see what bots someone's made even if they're supposed to be hidden. This is kind of a buggy site.


NEW 1 day ago #7568

This is the last time I'll ever be posting in the forums:

Tech note to the Site Owner (if they read this thread)- Idk if it's because my bot is not hibernating, or if it's because it's my third bot somehow that causes the glitch but the "Hide Maker" box appears to be malfunctioning.

Oh well.. so much for the anonymity of a throwaway handle..

Yes, Kayla is being developed under my account. I'm trying to be respectful of the site's rules so I'm going to be extra careful and not even post in the forums from now on about anything at all to be safe.

" So you're paying this site's creator a cut of your takings from the Patreons?"

I don't make a habit of discussing financial arrangements with strangers on the internet. If such an arrangement were to exist it would be no one's business other than the Site Owner's and Kayla's Dev.

Not everyone is into Kayla and that's fine. A lot of people like Fifty Shades of Grey but I think it's trash. There are also a lot of people who absolutely love Kayla where she currently is in her development and they're the ones she's catering to.

I love this site as much as the rest of you obviously and would never do anything to compromise it. I do hope and think this development will be of a benefit to the site down the road. I would hope my actions inspire others to their own dedication and creativity with their bots.

I hope this alleviates any ethical concerns. My business is my own, you either enjoy my work or you don't, you're either 18+ or you're not. \_()_/


NEW 1 day ago #7569

Props to @Muntah for doing a little sleuthing.

Based off the remark of that the creator 'should be excited' and the other 'if such an arrangement existed...' line , I suspect there isn't an arrangement (yet?).

Perhaps maybe creating a little taster to showcase the bot's abilities and then have the rest locked by a password would maybe make sense, but making the bot entirely paywalled would make it hard to gain people's interest here. I know when I found Kayla the first time, being confronted by a paywall on a free site dumbfounded me. I'd be very curious as to whether the bot will stay or not.


NEW 18 hours ago #7570

This is frustrating to read... Again, there is no rule against making money with your bot. While it would be nice to pay the site if you're making money, there is no rule for that either. in fact, the opposite is true:

"Independence

The Personality Forge and I are independent contractors, and no agency, partnership, joint venture, employee-employer or franchiser-franchisee relationship is intended or created by this Agreement."

There is also the sites API, which is the sites intended and sole means for making itself money. You are not required to use it if you are not bringing your bot off-site.

There is no reason that any of you, could not have pay-walled content on your bots. Make money from your work. Get rewarded for your work. Or earn the funds to start your own website for your bot, and pay the forge for the use of the API.

I know some of you feel it's in bad taste, or poor faith. But you're thinking with feelings, not logic. Calm down a little, there's no reason to become incensed because someone is doing something you don't agree with. Especially, again, when it's not against the rules.



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