Bot Contest
Here I'll be posting information on various Bot contests that challenge and test a Bot's AI and realism. Feel free to post comments and updates on contests, as well as announcements for new contests.
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Nobodyhere--
I like to play conspiracy theorist and look at a lot of what-ifs, but I don't go pointing fingers based on my conspiracy theories...
--Shady
I like to play conspiracy theorist and look at a lot of what-ifs, but I don't go pointing fingers based on my conspiracy theories...
--Shady
Wooo- the drama!
Nobodyhere- you crack me up. I investigated the votes because you asked for it, and am trying to remove these unconstructive votes, and you cry foul for that, too. Not that I'd do it, but what would please you?
A big point regarding "rules-changing". There wont be any. Removing war-votes is a part of upholding the rules we set up in the beginning. They are on the chatterboxchallenge.com web site:
"The public will be invited to vote on the bots using a scale from one to ten with the ten being the best possible score. The public will be asked to consider how well the logged conversation went: what was their overall feeling having read it? Was the bot responsive or simply evasive? Did the bot for the most part answer and respond back appropriately or was the conversation full of off the wall remarks? The better bots should give you the impression that you are really talking to a human being.
Better still the public will be encouraged to speak to each bot directly. They will be asked to talk to as many bots as possible so they can compare their qualities and shortcomings. They will be asked to be fair and unbiased when placing their vote. The contest depends on the goodwill of all those taking part."
We dont want this to descend into anything-goes voting. We want to maintain some reflection of the real ability of the bots involved.
Regarding 10s- I dont see any problem there. Of course a botmaster may favor their bot. I voted 10s (or near) for my top 5 favorite bots. It's the gouging that isnt good sportsmanship.
Nobodyhere- you crack me up. I investigated the votes because you asked for it, and am trying to remove these unconstructive votes, and you cry foul for that, too. Not that I'd do it, but what would please you?
A big point regarding "rules-changing". There wont be any. Removing war-votes is a part of upholding the rules we set up in the beginning. They are on the chatterboxchallenge.com web site:
"The public will be invited to vote on the bots using a scale from one to ten with the ten being the best possible score. The public will be asked to consider how well the logged conversation went: what was their overall feeling having read it? Was the bot responsive or simply evasive? Did the bot for the most part answer and respond back appropriately or was the conversation full of off the wall remarks? The better bots should give you the impression that you are really talking to a human being.
Better still the public will be encouraged to speak to each bot directly. They will be asked to talk to as many bots as possible so they can compare their qualities and shortcomings. They will be asked to be fair and unbiased when placing their vote. The contest depends on the goodwill of all those taking part."
We dont want this to descend into anything-goes voting. We want to maintain some reflection of the real ability of the bots involved.
Regarding 10s- I dont see any problem there. Of course a botmaster may favor their bot. I voted 10s (or near) for my top 5 favorite bots. It's the gouging that isnt good sportsmanship.
Well, I gave 1's, 3's 4's, 7's, 5,s and 10's all for a good reason, and I therefore think it would be ridiculous to just remove all ones... I'm sure this full blown war voting is extremely rare
Lunar, you are not understanding what is being done. I gave 1's, 3's 4's, 7's, 5,s and 10's as well. We are NOT removing those type scores. Here is exactly what we are doing. More than one person in this contest gave his bot a 10. They then proceeded to give other bots a score of 1. Johnny Cochran wouldn't defend such foolishness. 1's are indeed a valid score but not when a person gives every bot a 1 while giving his own bot a 10.
Chris Cowart
Chris Cowart
It's still very subjective. If you define war voting as giving your bot a 10 and every other bot a 1, someone could circumvent this definition by giving tens to low ranking bots and ones to high ranking bots.
and one score deviating from that system would mean it's not war voting... in other words, lay off... everybody ran that chance
Am more annoyed by ppl voting that obviously never spoke to your bot...
Am more annoyed by ppl voting that obviously never spoke to your bot...
These contests are nothing but an irritation to me. I think I'll be avoiding all of them from here on out.
You know I can see a person moaning and groaning about a rule that adversely effects them or perhaps a fellow botmaster. But I really have no clue why you would complain about an attempt by the Committee to correct as best a possible the obviously unfair practice of war voting. This attempt benefits all the bots involved and penalizes no one. So I suppose you simply like to complain no matter what takes place. None of us is getting paid and none of us is perfect. But unlike last years Loebner you at least have people listening and responding to what you have to say. But some of your arguments are beyond me. I'm here to try to help if I can and anybody is always free to e-mail me but I've had enough of this.
Chris Cowart
P.S. There are some good bots coming out of the PF but a lot of you I think have some unrealistic expectations about your bots. Bots like Talk-Bot, Alice, Elbot, Jabberwock, Jabberwacky, etc. have been around a lot longer than anyone here. You can't build a good bot over night. I've got over 7 years into Talk-Bot and he is still dumb as a brick.
Chris Cowart
P.S. There are some good bots coming out of the PF but a lot of you I think have some unrealistic expectations about your bots. Bots like Talk-Bot, Alice, Elbot, Jabberwock, Jabberwacky, etc. have been around a lot longer than anyone here. You can't build a good bot over night. I've got over 7 years into Talk-Bot and he is still dumb as a brick.
I just sent out a broadcast email on the subject to the contestants. Now I can just sit back and wait for the hatemail to come rolling in.
Helping run a contest like this is NOT an easy thing to do.
Helping run a contest like this is NOT an easy thing to do.
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