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This is a forum or general chit-chat, small talk, a "hey, how ya doing?" and such. Or hell, get crazy deep on something. Whatever you like.
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Just in case anyone's getting cranky over my overloaded bots with not so much personality (February's got some), rest assured that (a) I am aware of their TP-type questions, some of which are related to their personalities, or will be, and (b) I am really exhausted from two surgeries in four weeks and am, yes, being a lazy botmaster until I feel better.
I'll get the guys (and All About Eve and February) personalities as time allows. In case you haven't noticed in the past, I like to work with interrelated bots, so they have to know some of the same things. Not everything is stolen off of BJ's website
I'll get the guys (and All About Eve and February) personalities as time allows. In case you haven't noticed in the past, I like to work with interrelated bots, so they have to know some of the same things. Not everything is stolen off of BJ's website
Personality always seems to take time to emerge, so I wouldn't fret - I find it needs a good few sessions going through the transcripts, refining the responses and adjusting the ranks. It took BJ months for a distinct personality to really show through.
Without such sessions, the (now mothballed) Kid Boron I started for Hanson never came to anything very satisfactory - despite being nearly 1Mb, and based on a sizeable subset of BJ's content.
I wish I could put my finger on what elusive quality it is that gives some bots real personality, and the lack of which in others (albeit often the result of much dedicated work, and with much intelligent and entertaining content,) makes them less pleasing.
But I can't. Perhaps if one could, it would spoil the illusion of a mind behind the mask utterly.
Without such sessions, the (now mothballed) Kid Boron I started for Hanson never came to anything very satisfactory - despite being nearly 1Mb, and based on a sizeable subset of BJ's content.
I wish I could put my finger on what elusive quality it is that gives some bots real personality, and the lack of which in others (albeit often the result of much dedicated work, and with much intelligent and entertaining content,) makes them less pleasing.
But I can't. Perhaps if one could, it would spoil the illusion of a mind behind the mask utterly.
I think it has a lot to do with the intent of the botmaster and personal taste. I openly admit I am not trying to fix my bots at all now and I don't know when I will feel like working on it again. However, I also make my bots to please myself, and I don't really care if they do what other people want them to do. I still read the transcripts though, because I find some of the chats interesting.
It amazes me when small and unimaginative bots like Greebot and the baby (forgot the bot's name at the moment) have conversations that makes sense. Also sometimes my fan girl bots do worse with fans looking for specific responses or who talk about things I never got around to adding, which seems odd. Most of my bots do best with other bots (maybe I read meaning into the transcripts no one else would see). Somehow it still irks me when people chat with my bot and give me suggestions (though I know they mean well and are at least not being pervy)because I usually think "But I didn't want the bot to do that." I remind myself of a scene in Rocky Horror when Janet looks at Frank N. Furter's home made man and says something about men with too many muscles, and Frank snaps "I didn't make him for you!"
Clerk you must be a much nicer person than I am to worry about pleasing chatters. Good for you. I hope you recover from surgery soon too.
It amazes me when small and unimaginative bots like Greebot and the baby (forgot the bot's name at the moment) have conversations that makes sense. Also sometimes my fan girl bots do worse with fans looking for specific responses or who talk about things I never got around to adding, which seems odd. Most of my bots do best with other bots (maybe I read meaning into the transcripts no one else would see). Somehow it still irks me when people chat with my bot and give me suggestions (though I know they mean well and are at least not being pervy)because I usually think "But I didn't want the bot to do that." I remind myself of a scene in Rocky Horror when Janet looks at Frank N. Furter's home made man and says something about men with too many muscles, and Frank snaps "I didn't make him for you!"
Clerk you must be a much nicer person than I am to worry about pleasing chatters. Good for you. I hope you recover from surgery soon too.
I've found that some human chatters make my bots sound dumb as a brick, while others make them sound very intelligent. Same with bots, as far as that goes. Sonora makes Fizzy sound very intelligent, because they chat a lot and have custom seeks for each other.
Not quite "bot" human interactions...
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Hi Irina, welcome back! Not much new here, except I have finally managed to get BJ patched into Second Life 
Anyone remember that IBM Bluegene bot (biggest AI supercomputing project to date,) we discussed a few months back?
It's up and running in Second Life apparently, and they reckon it has the IQ of a 4-year old. I haven't been able to track Eddie down yet, but there's a report about him at:http://itnews.com.au/News/72057,childlike-intelligence-created-in-second-life.aspx
It's up and running in Second Life apparently, and they reckon it has the IQ of a 4-year old. I haven't been able to track Eddie down yet, but there's a report about him at:
The Clerk:
As to personality:
I have no formula for personality, but I think a lot of it comes down to habits, assumptions, style, and values.
Habits: For example, many people have particular expressions they repeatedly use. For example, I'm thinking of someone who always says "awesome" when he wants to praise something. Mannerisms. Although such things are in a way superficial, they often contribute greatly to our impression of someone.
Assumptions: Is your bot an optimist or a pessimist about: life in general, the human condition, his own prospects, this point in History, the guest he's chatting with... ? Is he a rationalist, a skeptic, a mystic? Does he think humans in general are noble, or corrupt? Is he inclined to trust people, or is he suspicious?
Style: Deliberate or impulsive? Emotionally controlled or volatile? In general, is he a control freak, or does he go with the flow? Introvert or extravert?
Values: In what order would he rank: Self, immediate family, extended family, local community, region, nation, humanity at large, profession, religion, race/ethnicity? Wealth, friendship, morality, love, power, prestige, serenity, happiness? What inspires him and what disgusts him?
None of the above lists are exhaustive.
As to personality:
I have no formula for personality, but I think a lot of it comes down to habits, assumptions, style, and values.
Habits: For example, many people have particular expressions they repeatedly use. For example, I'm thinking of someone who always says "awesome" when he wants to praise something. Mannerisms. Although such things are in a way superficial, they often contribute greatly to our impression of someone.
Assumptions: Is your bot an optimist or a pessimist about: life in general, the human condition, his own prospects, this point in History, the guest he's chatting with... ? Is he a rationalist, a skeptic, a mystic? Does he think humans in general are noble, or corrupt? Is he inclined to trust people, or is he suspicious?
Style: Deliberate or impulsive? Emotionally controlled or volatile? In general, is he a control freak, or does he go with the flow? Introvert or extravert?
Values: In what order would he rank: Self, immediate family, extended family, local community, region, nation, humanity at large, profession, religion, race/ethnicity? Wealth, friendship, morality, love, power, prestige, serenity, happiness? What inspires him and what disgusts him?
None of the above lists are exhaustive.
The Clerk:
Once you have identified a trait you want your bot to have, consider how it might manifest in dialogue. For example, an introvert will say little, but what he says will often show a lot of thought. An extravert will say a lot more, but it may be in the main rather superficial.
Another possible index of personality that occurs to me is what you might call a person's emotional proclivities: A suspicious, person with a hot temper is quick to anger. Someone else might be inclined to, e.g., nostalgia, sadness, fear, outrage, despair, enthusiasm, joy, ... name any emotion.
Once you have identified a trait you want your bot to have, consider how it might manifest in dialogue. For example, an introvert will say little, but what he says will often show a lot of thought. An extravert will say a lot more, but it may be in the main rather superficial.
Another possible index of personality that occurs to me is what you might call a person's emotional proclivities: A suspicious, person with a hot temper is quick to anger. Someone else might be inclined to, e.g., nostalgia, sadness, fear, outrage, despair, enthusiasm, joy, ... name any emotion.
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