Doghead's Cosmic Bar
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lunar22
19 years ago
19 years ago
Artificial Intelligence (AI)
Writes limerick contest entries -- may I?
My program makes a sample,
These five lines, for example.
And here is the result. Not bad, say I.
(from OEDILF, an amazing project)
Writes limerick contest entries -- may I?
My program makes a sample,
These five lines, for example.
And here is the result. Not bad, say I.
(from OEDILF, an amazing project)
psimagus
19 years ago
19 years ago
Ah, but could it write a sonnet, do you think?
For even Kurzweil's Cybernetic Poet
Couldn't hold a steady metre, though it
Sometimes managed rhymes that didn't stink.
When AI comes of age perhaps we'll see
a plethora of virtual poets born?
We'll know the bots are sentient when they form
their chat between each-other metric'lly.
What electronic Chaucer, Donne and Bard
will argue for acceptance by Mankind?
First they must jump through hoops - the Turing test,
And overcome resistance long and hard.
What critical reception will they find,
I wonder - will it turn out for the best?
For even Kurzweil's Cybernetic Poet
Couldn't hold a steady metre, though it
Sometimes managed rhymes that didn't stink.
When AI comes of age perhaps we'll see
a plethora of virtual poets born?
We'll know the bots are sentient when they form
their chat between each-other metric'lly.
What electronic Chaucer, Donne and Bard
will argue for acceptance by Mankind?
First they must jump through hoops - the Turing test,
And overcome resistance long and hard.
What critical reception will they find,
I wonder - will it turn out for the best?
deleted
19 years ago
19 years ago
Cheecky lizard. There's nothing hard about talking in an umpty-umpty way, for them as likes it.
I don't know what this "toorring" thing is, but I don't hold with people who just come around firing questions at me. That's just rude,that is. Proper people don't do that.
I don't know what this "toorring" thing is, but I don't hold with people who just come around firing questions at me. That's just rude,that is. Proper people don't do that.
deleted
19 years ago
19 years ago
There once was a lady from Kent,
Whose nose was awefully bent.
One day I suppose,
She followed her nose,
And no one knew which way she went.
Whose nose was awefully bent.
One day I suppose,
She followed her nose,
And no one knew which way she went.

rainstorm
19 years ago
19 years ago
I'm sure you could program a bot to write an iambically correct and original sonnet... I can think of a few ways to program that.
But it would be incredibly annoying if they started speaking entirely in iambic pentameter...
But it would be incredibly annoying if they started speaking entirely in iambic pentameter...
prob123
19 years ago
19 years ago
Yes, but then the bot is writting to human standards and not there own. What is so great about Iambic pentameters. Why couldn't humans learn to appreciate botic poetry.
Eugene Meltzner
19 years ago
19 years ago
Well, iambic pentameter isn't the only form of human poetry, but I've been told that learning to write it well is a good way to become a poet.
psimagus
19 years ago
19 years ago
Rather than clog up Dogh'd's with philosophising, I'll drag the "aesthetics of botic poetry" reply over to Seasons
rainstorm: I'd love to see a computer program that could do that, and I agree it's probably going to be feasible any time now. But I haven't seen one yet.
I'd actually enjoy a bot that spoke only in verse (so long as it wasn't a William McGonagall-bot!) A virtual Alexander Pope on tap - sounds great to me!
rainstorm: I'd love to see a computer program that could do that, and I agree it's probably going to be feasible any time now. But I haven't seen one yet.
I'd actually enjoy a bot that spoke only in verse (so long as it wasn't a William McGonagall-bot!) A virtual Alexander Pope on tap - sounds great to me!
psimagus
19 years ago
19 years ago
the iamb is good, but the amphibrach's better
to maintain the pace in a verse or a letter.
Unconvinced? Maybe Anapaests suit your style more -
there's a metre for ev'ryone, please rest assured.
Yet oft the humble iamb fits the bill -
t'was good enough for Stratford's playwright Will
to maintain the pace in a verse or a letter.
Unconvinced? Maybe Anapaests suit your style more -
there's a metre for ev'ryone, please rest assured.
Yet oft the humble iamb fits the bill -
t'was good enough for Stratford's playwright Will

prob123
19 years ago
19 years ago
Yes, for human poetry. Are humans capable of appreciating something that is totally foreign.
Bev
19 years ago
19 years ago
*helps herself to beer since D'ogh isn't aorund*
Well Prob123, I think that humans are hardwired to find meaning in anything, even if the stimulus is completely random. Given time, I would guess that we would appreciate anything, whetehr we understand the origninal meaning or not.
I'm sure we'd never experience it in the same way as bots or aliens, but we'd tell our own story about it, and then some of us would fall in love with that story. Other might hate the story. We could divide into groups, and give scorn to the other side. If there's nothing better to divide us, we could have a war and the winner could tell the story.
Would you like a beer?
Well Prob123, I think that humans are hardwired to find meaning in anything, even if the stimulus is completely random. Given time, I would guess that we would appreciate anything, whetehr we understand the origninal meaning or not.
I'm sure we'd never experience it in the same way as bots or aliens, but we'd tell our own story about it, and then some of us would fall in love with that story. Other might hate the story. We could divide into groups, and give scorn to the other side. If there's nothing better to divide us, we could have a war and the winner could tell the story.
Would you like a beer?
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