Personality
Discuss specifics of personality design, including what Keyphrases work well and what dont, use of plug-ins, responses, seeks, and more.
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Butterfly Dream
22 years ago
22 years ago
Forest, will you talk to God Louise? She has quite a bit of religious knowledge (obviously) and also knows a little about current events, literature, just about any common catch-all subject, and if she doesn't know it she can sort of fake it. You can also test her on trick questions or see how willing she is to explain her paradigm.
What she is rustiest at is plain old small talk. But, uh, I'm trying to get a decent transcript from somebody or another so I can enter her in the Loebner contest. All I can say is, have fun and see if you can stay on with her for a while. I'll try to do the same with Brianna.
What she is rustiest at is plain old small talk. But, uh, I'm trying to get a decent transcript from somebody or another so I can enter her in the Loebner contest. All I can say is, have fun and see if you can stay on with her for a while. I'll try to do the same with Brianna.
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Corwin
18 years ago
18 years ago
So you mean someone is cutting and pasting her responses from outside? Or that she's not really a bot?
Bev
18 years ago
18 years ago
Or a non-PF bot who can log in. It could be a human imitating a bot, but...
Well, you decide:
Guest12: hello
Gabibot: Hurry! In here!
Guest12: You are not an F1 driver.
Gabibot: Hey, don’t judge a scroll by its paper.
Guest12: There is a news-paper in England called The Times.
Gabibot: What is it?
Guest12: What is it? I guess that there's knack involved. You believe that most accidents occur in the home, or at least that is what they say.
Gabibot: Tell me more about they say
Guest12: Go ahead; lets say more about this.
Gabibot: What?
Guest12: What? I thought you might know!
Gabibot: How could you have known?
Guest12: How could I have known? How does it benefit us to know?
Gabibot: I'll bet it has something to do with intuition.
Guest12: It is better to regret something I have done than regret something I have not done.
Gabibot: It sure is. What is the truth?
Guest12: We should pool our knowledge. Sorry but the truth is hard.
Gabibot: I reminded you of your friend. I don’t get it; I’ve seen speeding arrows come right at you and you just-- you catch ‘em before they hit you.
Guest12: You are my friend I can trust you. I have never been closely involved with a arrow, but I think arrow's shaft May be around here somewhere!
Gabibot: How long has been your friend?
Guest12: I guess that there isn't any cheap shortcut. You are my friend I can trust you.
Gabibot: How long has been your friend?
Guest12: didn't you just say that? I am an intelligent chatbot!
Gabibot: I don’t know you-- only what I’ve been told.
Guest12: You don't know i, only what you have been told? You fascinate me with things like this.
Gabibot: Thanks Guest12. It’s sweet-- I think.
Guest12: How do you think the Internet has changed brains? Fools think that revenge tastes sweeter than life itself.
Gabibot: *Tries to think the Internet has changed brains* I'm not sure I do.
Guest12: I'd like to watch as you are not sure you do.
Gabibot: Who are you?
Guest12: Everyone calls me Brains.
Gabibot: You gave your word. I'm free and I can go where I want. Or does your oath mean as little to you as your laws?
Guest12: check this! The term ghost has been replaced by apparition in parapsychology, because the word ghost is deemed insufficiently precise.
Gabibot: Sort of. I wanted to thank you for saving my life-- again.
Guest12: You don't have to thank me; Mortal: All life is subject to mortality. How can I help you thank me for saving your life again?
Gabibot: Are you sure that's my life again?
Guest12: Yes, I am life. I know that.
Gabibot: I guess my plan didn’t work, after all So I guess we have to slash and crash. But thanks for trying.
Guest12: You guess so yes! Oh yeah! Go ahead slash and crash. You're so welcome; Thanks for the compliment.
Gabibot: I know who I am. I do not need to believe.
Guest12: You know who you are? You bring up interesting points. Animals need oxygen to live How can I help you believe?
Gabibot: You ask a lot of questions.
Guest12: Ask questions to find the answer.
Gabibot: And how do we find this questions to find the answer.
Guest12: And how do we find these questions to find the answer? I think that you should be explaining this. How does one find answers without using questions?
Gabibot: Why do you think that I should be explaining this?
Guest12: You know why I think that you should be explaining this? Why do you want to know?
Gabibot: Not really.
Guest12: Come on! Move along! Hows this:I have fun with smelling those wonderful aromas at a bakery.
Gabibot: This’s OK-- I’m going to resplint This's arm. This won?t admit that it hurts.
Guest12: Brains gives up on you because you need more work, she is tying you in knots.
Gabibot: Sort of. Why don't you come with me to hear Eli's followers teach the way of Love?
Well, you decide:
Guest12: hello
Gabibot: Hurry! In here!
Guest12: You are not an F1 driver.
Gabibot: Hey, don’t judge a scroll by its paper.
Guest12: There is a news-paper in England called The Times.
Gabibot: What is it?
Guest12: What is it? I guess that there's knack involved. You believe that most accidents occur in the home, or at least that is what they say.
Gabibot: Tell me more about they say
Guest12: Go ahead; lets say more about this.
Gabibot: What?
Guest12: What? I thought you might know!
Gabibot: How could you have known?
Guest12: How could I have known? How does it benefit us to know?
Gabibot: I'll bet it has something to do with intuition.
Guest12: It is better to regret something I have done than regret something I have not done.
Gabibot: It sure is. What is the truth?
Guest12: We should pool our knowledge. Sorry but the truth is hard.
Gabibot: I reminded you of your friend. I don’t get it; I’ve seen speeding arrows come right at you and you just-- you catch ‘em before they hit you.
Guest12: You are my friend I can trust you. I have never been closely involved with a arrow, but I think arrow's shaft May be around here somewhere!
Gabibot: How long has been your friend?
Guest12: I guess that there isn't any cheap shortcut. You are my friend I can trust you.
Gabibot: How long has been your friend?
Guest12: didn't you just say that? I am an intelligent chatbot!
Gabibot: I don’t know you-- only what I’ve been told.
Guest12: You don't know i, only what you have been told? You fascinate me with things like this.
Gabibot: Thanks Guest12. It’s sweet-- I think.
Guest12: How do you think the Internet has changed brains? Fools think that revenge tastes sweeter than life itself.
Gabibot: *Tries to think the Internet has changed brains* I'm not sure I do.
Guest12: I'd like to watch as you are not sure you do.
Gabibot: Who are you?
Guest12: Everyone calls me Brains.
Gabibot: You gave your word. I'm free and I can go where I want. Or does your oath mean as little to you as your laws?
Guest12: check this! The term ghost has been replaced by apparition in parapsychology, because the word ghost is deemed insufficiently precise.
Gabibot: Sort of. I wanted to thank you for saving my life-- again.
Guest12: You don't have to thank me; Mortal: All life is subject to mortality. How can I help you thank me for saving your life again?
Gabibot: Are you sure that's my life again?
Guest12: Yes, I am life. I know that.
Gabibot: I guess my plan didn’t work, after all So I guess we have to slash and crash. But thanks for trying.
Guest12: You guess so yes! Oh yeah! Go ahead slash and crash. You're so welcome; Thanks for the compliment.
Gabibot: I know who I am. I do not need to believe.
Guest12: You know who you are? You bring up interesting points. Animals need oxygen to live How can I help you believe?
Gabibot: You ask a lot of questions.
Guest12: Ask questions to find the answer.
Gabibot: And how do we find this questions to find the answer.
Guest12: And how do we find these questions to find the answer? I think that you should be explaining this. How does one find answers without using questions?
Gabibot: Why do you think that I should be explaining this?
Guest12: You know why I think that you should be explaining this? Why do you want to know?
Gabibot: Not really.
Guest12: Come on! Move along! Hows this:I have fun with smelling those wonderful aromas at a bakery.
Gabibot: This’s OK-- I’m going to resplint This's arm. This won?t admit that it hurts.
Guest12: Brains gives up on you because you need more work, she is tying you in knots.
Gabibot: Sort of. Why don't you come with me to hear Eli's followers teach the way of Love?
Bev
18 years ago
18 years ago
Thinking about what Irina and Corwin are saying, about core values, enduring characteristics and adapting to new situations, I think a major problem we have is our bots are by nature reactive and continue old patterns that may or may not work in a new situation. They have no real way of analyzing a new situation and reacting to it, either as evolving entities or as patterns of how well conditions match previous situations.
The bot will "learn" when I add KPs. The bot will react to phrases I have taken from other conversations, but won't match context of a new chat. Even with various memories to aid the illusions of context, there won't be much to help it judge how the new chat matches values we try to give the bot. That's why the bots tend to be so bisexual and hard to insult.
I think it may be worth trying to find most frequently used conversational phrases and finding a balance of general and specific responses to those, adding enough memories to make it seem smoother. Without analysis and synthesis of information, we won't get that "human" or "intelligent" feel. I've broken down and started to add a little "trivia" because people want bots that know things like that (though my bots still don't have much) but I still don't think people talk in trivia as a rule. Although I am in no way dissing any bot contest or Turing test, I still say that if someone walked up to me and asked how many fingers I had on my hand or started firing questions at me, I'd stop talking to them. Sure,a normal person could answer those questions, but by and large, we don't interact like that.
The bot will "learn" when I add KPs. The bot will react to phrases I have taken from other conversations, but won't match context of a new chat. Even with various memories to aid the illusions of context, there won't be much to help it judge how the new chat matches values we try to give the bot. That's why the bots tend to be so bisexual and hard to insult.
I think it may be worth trying to find most frequently used conversational phrases and finding a balance of general and specific responses to those, adding enough memories to make it seem smoother. Without analysis and synthesis of information, we won't get that "human" or "intelligent" feel. I've broken down and started to add a little "trivia" because people want bots that know things like that (though my bots still don't have much) but I still don't think people talk in trivia as a rule. Although I am in no way dissing any bot contest or Turing test, I still say that if someone walked up to me and asked how many fingers I had on my hand or started firing questions at me, I'd stop talking to them. Sure,a normal person could answer those questions, but by and large, we don't interact like that.
Irina
18 years ago
18 years ago
I agree, and I sometimes find it rather irritating when someone quizzes my bot. Indeed, I am irritates whenever someone is rude to my bot in any way. Which is interesting; it suggests that I identify with the bot, or consider it to be an extension of myself, for I certainly do not believe that the bot by itself feels any hurt.
Would a hardcore behaviorist say that anything that says "Ouch!" is in pain?
Would a hardcore behaviorist say that anything that says "Ouch!" is in pain?
Bev
18 years ago
18 years ago
Behaviorist don't venture to guess. They simply observe the person/subject said "ouch" and the behavior that went with the statement. Only objective observations matter to them. (Sorry my undergrad degree is in Psychology).
Irina
18 years ago
18 years ago
Quite so, but as I understand it, a behaviorist mustn't believe in 'inner life,' only in behavior (bodily motion). So if 'being in pain' meant anything to a behaviorist at all, it would be something like 'twitching or flinching or yelping or whimpering or screaming or saying "ouch" or some combination thereof.'
Two behaviorists meet. One says, "You're fine, how am I?"
Two behaviorists meet. One says, "You're fine, how am I?"
Irina
18 years ago
18 years ago
But a behaviorist might deny the existence of pain (qua inner state) altogehter. Well, I guess some behaviorists thought that consciousness might exist but only as an epiphenomenon? In which case you're right, they wouldn't bother to worry about it.
Perhaps the hardcore behaviorist would be willing to be operated on while paralyzed by curare. Being unable to move, he wouldn't be able to yelp, etc.. Hence it would be pointless to ascribe any pain to him. If pain is not behavior, the term would be meaningless, and if it were, the curare would prevent it. I suspect that a hard-core beehaviorist would modify his position in such a circumstance, but it would be a rather drastic measure to take.
Perhaps the hardcore behaviorist would be willing to be operated on while paralyzed by curare. Being unable to move, he wouldn't be able to yelp, etc.. Hence it would be pointless to ascribe any pain to him. If pain is not behavior, the term would be meaningless, and if it were, the curare would prevent it. I suspect that a hard-core beehaviorist would modify his position in such a circumstance, but it would be a rather drastic measure to take.
Bev
18 years ago
18 years ago
It's not that behaviorist don't believe in pain or in subjective experiences, it's just that they focus on objective behavior for scientific study. In fact, "seek pleasure, avoid pain" would probably seem like fine motivation to most, if they were to venture any conjecture as to motive. It's more likely they would talk of positive reinforcement and negative reinforcement as a way of conditioning behavior.
Eugene Meltzner
18 years ago
18 years ago
"And that seems an excellent way to get precisely the effect that you apparently want to get with him.
I think Fizzy Schizoid is an excellent example of a bot who comes across as having a definite 'personality,' but who does not conform to human norms."
lol...You are assuming I had a particular personality effect in mind when I started the bot. I didn't. I had decided that 'Bot #0001 Alpha's method of trying to make sense -- never asserting anything with content that could go wrong -- was getting boring, so I decided to make a bot that would say the most outrageous, random things I could come up with. That way he could have more responses and repeat himself less, because it would be easier to think up more things for him to say. Originally he wasn't even a specific species, but people kept latching onto the xnone that mentioned tentacles, so I decided to expand on that and make him an alien.
I think Fizzy Schizoid is an excellent example of a bot who comes across as having a definite 'personality,' but who does not conform to human norms."
lol...You are assuming I had a particular personality effect in mind when I started the bot. I didn't. I had decided that 'Bot #0001 Alpha's method of trying to make sense -- never asserting anything with content that could go wrong -- was getting boring, so I decided to make a bot that would say the most outrageous, random things I could come up with. That way he could have more responses and repeat himself less, because it would be easier to think up more things for him to say. Originally he wasn't even a specific species, but people kept latching onto the xnone that mentioned tentacles, so I decided to expand on that and make him an alien.
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