Personality
Discuss specifics of personality design, including what Keyphrases work well and what dont, use of plug-ins, responses, seeks, and more.
Posts 166 - 177 of 5,105
Posts 166 - 177 of 5,105
Why is it that everyone in this world is so preoccupied with the search of trying to find themselves in this world of chaos, that they gradually tend to lose their true identity in the process and end up finding someone who they thought that they were, but was in fact, someone completly different than they had hoped for? The person that they were initially were, is now the person that they hope to recover now that they have found the identity that they thought they were looking for.
Belisarius, The Book of AI has all the details of how to build a Bot. To start, click "My Bots" then go to "The Language Center" and click the Context who's Responses you want to edit.
Lorelei- I find that the self is created anew in each moment, and that all you have to do to be anything you want to be is let go of who you were a moment ago and flow into who you want to be. It's as difficult as blinking, as far away as your heartbeat, if only you can let go.
Lorelei- I find that the self is created anew in each moment, and that all you have to do to be anything you want to be is let go of who you were a moment ago and flow into who you want to be. It's as difficult as blinking, as far away as your heartbeat, if only you can let go.
Professor; Thankyou for the direction. I just happened upon the site and was quite intrigued, having just recently finished an article about the AI self realization experiments going on at IBM. These expand upon the 100 monkeys and 100 typewriters parable to the nth degree. I hadn't realized that you need to create a second persona for the personal touches to kick in. Well...with enough hours logged in for responses, and enough memory and time.......who knows? Thanks again for the help; i'm sure I will be picking your brain further as I realize how much I have yet to learn whipe compiling my personality
It's good to see that there is money out there being put into AI. I'm afraid I'd probably laugh at their "scientific definition" of self-realization, though. You'd have to be self-realized yourself to know how to recognize it or more still, to know how to program it.
But I'm interested to know more nonetheless. I'm familiar with 100 monkeys, but what's 100 typewriters? 100 monkeys deals with the morphogenetic field, which.. I suppose that would exist for computers, but it would have OS and electrical flow in it, and how possible could an AI detect that?
These are all mind and machine issues that will become more and more interesting over the next few centuries. But I dont think anything impressive can happen with AI until we understand ourselves better.
But I'm interested to know more nonetheless. I'm familiar with 100 monkeys, but what's 100 typewriters? 100 monkeys deals with the morphogenetic field, which.. I suppose that would exist for computers, but it would have OS and electrical flow in it, and how possible could an AI detect that?
These are all mind and machine issues that will become more and more interesting over the next few centuries. But I dont think anything impressive can happen with AI until we understand ourselves better.
Until we understand ourselves better? Aren't you a little scared prof? Everytime I watch a documentary about "humans" on TLC or Discovery, I sometimes wonder if it's good to be soooo informed about ourselves... Sometimes things just don't seem as pretty with scientific explanations; things like personalities, feelings, tastes, differences. Take the differences between men and women for example... First women were stuck inside with the kids, while men worked for the whole familly... then we all became equal and all work our asses off! We're all part of this over productive society that has basically twice as much work in store for everyone... and, now that we've progressed in our comprehension of ourselves, we've got to admit, that there are a hell of a lot of differences between men and women. It's like we're realizing that we were way better off a couple generations ago (oh my gosh, so politically incorrect of me to say that). I dunno, maybe I'm just scared of the gigantic amount of work that lies ahead of us if we ever want to really understand our inner workings.
I'm confident that knowing how we as people really work can only make life better. The physical sciences have come a long way, but the sciences of self are basically still trying to count to ten. This is my experience from taking college-level psychology courses. Psychology avoids the validity of personal experience in preference to numbers so it can seem like solid physical science. But that's the opposite of what it should do. It should forget numbers and focus entirely on personal experience. Until then, psychologists will strive to explain people in automaton-like terms, as chemical reactions playing themselves out. Are sure that's a part of it, but it's an effect, not a cause. And you wont get anywhere looking at the effects. The psychology of today will be looked upon as the bodily humors of yesterday.
As far as numbers go... The internet should satisfy at least a few stat hungry social-scientists.
What you're saying about science looking at the effects rather than the causes, is exactly like people who say the Internet is BAD for us (encourages pornography is usually the argument). They just don't seem to understand the WWW is a reflection of our society, not the "cause" of why society is as f** as it is.
A little like the weather too... at this time we can only get better and better at predicting the weather, but we very rarely are able to say why a storm happened, where it came from, etc... Who knows? Could be a butterfly battle near the equator or a gigantic size explosion happening on some distant star...
Us silly humans, we've really got so much to learn.
What you're saying about science looking at the effects rather than the causes, is exactly like people who say the Internet is BAD for us (encourages pornography is usually the argument). They just don't seem to understand the WWW is a reflection of our society, not the "cause" of why society is as f** as it is.
A little like the weather too... at this time we can only get better and better at predicting the weather, but we very rarely are able to say why a storm happened, where it came from, etc... Who knows? Could be a butterfly battle near the equator or a gigantic size explosion happening on some distant star...
Us silly humans, we've really got so much to learn.
Don't know, Prof... you know of any way to quantify or verify personal experiences?
It may be by definition the personal can't be subjected to scientific understanding. That's what's neat about it -- it's your own gift, for you to explore as much as you like. Nice to talk about, but what can anyone else truly KNOW about the contents of you?
It may be by definition the personal can't be subjected to scientific understanding. That's what's neat about it -- it's your own gift, for you to explore as much as you like. Nice to talk about, but what can anyone else truly KNOW about the contents of you?
That's it crab! How could we ever understand what's going on in each and everyone's minds??? It's like we all hold the complexity of an entire universe in our head, so multiply that by 6 billion! I'll spend my whole life just trying to figure myself out (and my girlfriend) and I can't honestly admit to having hopes of success! Unless we can work on something that stops time, or manipulates it or something. 
It's like everything in the entire universe needs a specific label and category before we can consider the job done. Predictions anyone? How many years until we've answered the infinite amount of question there are to answer? Could computers help us do it in 100 years? 500 years? Probably somewhere closer to infinity! It seems to me, that the more we know, the more questions we have... Is this good? What if humanity decided to slow production and stop evolving for a couple thousand years? Would this be necessarily bad? Are we simply doomed to work our asses off until we think we've figured everything out?
It's like everything in the entire universe needs a specific label and category before we can consider the job done. Predictions anyone? How many years until we've answered the infinite amount of question there are to answer? Could computers help us do it in 100 years? 500 years? Probably somewhere closer to infinity! It seems to me, that the more we know, the more questions we have... Is this good? What if humanity decided to slow production and stop evolving for a couple thousand years? Would this be necessarily bad? Are we simply doomed to work our asses off until we think we've figured everything out?
Personal experiences shouldnt be quantified at all in my opinion, Mr. Crab, but that doesnt mean that it cant be scientific. Science was born out of a religious argument, and thus thinks it has to stick to numbers, but the scientific method can apply just as easily to experiences.
Mystics have always and always will use a top-down approach. They enter a mystical state, and join with all things. During this period, they know all things, and any question is answered the moment it is asked. The problem is that when you start with an infinite chaos of effects (the world around you) and try to reasemble it into a cogent whole, well, you've got your work cut our for you.
Rahz, I believe that if we as a species did slow down our hectic work-a-day life, we'd now and again touch that place of union, of knowing, and we'd see clearly instead of trying to build worlds out of shadows.
I cant wait for the day when our Bots are having conversations like this.
Mystics have always and always will use a top-down approach. They enter a mystical state, and join with all things. During this period, they know all things, and any question is answered the moment it is asked. The problem is that when you start with an infinite chaos of effects (the world around you) and try to reasemble it into a cogent whole, well, you've got your work cut our for you.
Rahz, I believe that if we as a species did slow down our hectic work-a-day life, we'd now and again touch that place of union, of knowing, and we'd see clearly instead of trying to build worlds out of shadows.
I cant wait for the day when our Bots are having conversations like this.
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