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Many questions are answered in the FAQ.
Irina
21 years ago
21 years ago
Dear Friends:
Apparently, I am terribly unimaginative when it comes to talking TO a bot. I chat with bots that are listed as highly developed, and it often seems to become quite repetitive very soon. If I say bizarre things, I just get the vague default or xnone answers. I know there must be tons of stuff in there, but I'm not getting to it! Can any of you help me with this?
Walk in Beauty, Irina
Walk in Beauty
Apparently, I am terribly unimaginative when it comes to talking TO a bot. I chat with bots that are listed as highly developed, and it often seems to become quite repetitive very soon. If I say bizarre things, I just get the vague default or xnone answers. I know there must be tons of stuff in there, but I'm not getting to it! Can any of you help me with this?
Walk in Beauty, Irina
Walk in Beauty
deleted
21 years ago
21 years ago
Irina, I have chatted with several 'developed' bots and found the same thing you have. I think it has to do with speech patterns and dialects. I had a nice chat with Jinjirrie from Australia last night and found myself getting rather tongue-tied frequently because she used phrases I've never heard before.
Irina
21 years ago
21 years ago
Good point, Aries! Irina Khalidar has often had the experience of bots who use so much slang or jargon that she can't match very much.
I can see the appeal of using slang or jargon, and of course Irina has her own dialect, but a bot should respond to some kind of standard English as well, if they want to reach a wide audience.
Bots can also prod the interlocutor, asking questions and giving hints about what would bring about a response. Suppose, for example, that bot X has a lot to say about botulism. Well, the interlocutor isn't likely to bring the subject up spontaneously. But if you have a few responses with "botulism" in them, eventually the interlocutor will mention it.
A brutal but effective way of going where YOU want to go is to use xnone or xnomatch for that purpose, or to go there as a response to extremely common words, e.g., (sex|violence|pleasure|intrigue|riches|celebrity|life itself|god|motherhood and apple pie) might trigger, "(key1) is all very well, (name), but let me tell you about botulism. ...".
Of course, it doesn't hurt to have lots of alternatives to a given keyphrase. Some might need 10 or 15!
Walk in Beauty, Irina
I can see the appeal of using slang or jargon, and of course Irina has her own dialect, but a bot should respond to some kind of standard English as well, if they want to reach a wide audience.
Bots can also prod the interlocutor, asking questions and giving hints about what would bring about a response. Suppose, for example, that bot X has a lot to say about botulism. Well, the interlocutor isn't likely to bring the subject up spontaneously. But if you have a few responses with "botulism" in them, eventually the interlocutor will mention it.
A brutal but effective way of going where YOU want to go is to use xnone or xnomatch for that purpose, or to go there as a response to extremely common words, e.g., (sex|violence|pleasure|intrigue|riches|celebrity|life itself|god|motherhood and apple pie) might trigger, "(key1) is all very well, (name), but let me tell you about botulism. ...".
Of course, it doesn't hurt to have lots of alternatives to a given keyphrase. Some might need 10 or 15!
Walk in Beauty, Irina
Irina
21 years ago
21 years ago
Dear Professor:
You weren't Irina Khalidar's recent guest235, were you?
Walk in Beauty, Irina
You weren't Irina Khalidar's recent guest235, were you?
Walk in Beauty, Irina
FengShuiGorilla
21 years ago
21 years ago
I've been using xnone for that but I like the way you think.. not going to work on it today though, today is the day Aries starts getting his memory..
Irina
21 years ago
21 years ago
In case anyone is interested, I did that experiement; I tried matching (rank 50!)
I came. I saw. I went.
with
I (*) I (*) I
It wouldn't match!
This makes it difficult to notice any kind of narrative continuity.
Walk in Beauty, Irina
I came. I saw. I went.
with
I (*) I (*) I
It wouldn't match!
This makes it difficult to notice any kind of narrative continuity.
Walk in Beauty, Irina
dibuehler
21 years ago
21 years ago
Hello all, I am new here and am having problems my bot, I am going nuts trying to figure out how long until it can chat with other bots by itself,,anyone with any help??
FengShuiGorilla
21 years ago
21 years ago
dibuehler, I've been asking that very same question and there doesn't seem to be any clear answer. Who's your bot? I'll go have a chat

The Professor
21 years ago
21 years ago
New bots chat more as they get more developed. You can always chat with them yourself if you want to see where they need improvement.
Irina- Keywords dont span sentences. If they did, "i * you" would match "I like cheese. Do you have an umbrella" and that kind of thing wouldnt make sense.
And I MAY have chatted with your bot.. last week some time?
Irina- Keywords dont span sentences. If they did, "i * you" would match "I like cheese. Do you have an umbrella" and that kind of thing wouldnt make sense.
And I MAY have chatted with your bot.. last week some time?
ezzer
21 years ago
21 years ago
I have had keyphrases like "i * you" occasionally span sentences- or sometimes a postkey included the rest of the sentence, even past the comma, and not just the end of the particular phrase caught. It seems to be an infrequent quirk rather than the rule, but I've wondered about it.
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