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No I don't think so. Psimagus was working on an AIML filter but I don't think he finished it. I still prefer the forge. What problems are you having? I found the forge very simple to use and I have no background in computers at all.

Kingdom, maybe you and Ronnie075 can chat about AIML. If I remember correctly, Ronnie was going from the transistion as well

I think that the forge has a much more complex system, using plugins (which, in AIML is called "wildcards") that are confusing for the bot instead of writing srai tags, you can't write srai tags because you have to copy all the responses, in this way, it takes alot more time to be able to create a bot, and I don't think this system is that great. People who have had problem with AIML have usually set wrong tags, mispelled tags and so on. Or have done it very messy for themselves, not putting each category in a file etc, for greetings there is one file and for the bot's personality there is another file and so on, this is a big mistake many people do when they begin on AIML, and so I'm not so surprised they easily quit because they find it hard and messy, but don't take the time to cover up the spaces and sort everything in the beginning.

You don't need to use plug ins if you don't like. I only use a few. It's not that the Forge is more complex, it just offers more, like memories etc. I think you are making it more complex than necessary.

Agreed.

My bots are very complex. That's because of my own doing.

I can have one of my bots chat with another and learn from that one while I call it a day.

Hi folks. I'm working on a design of a complex bot engine which can parse completely free form english grammar text, derive meaning, reason, and deduce a response. I have put in so far a year into the engine, and a frew months just on grammar rules. I hope to have a demo on utube by year's end.

Sounds great.

I'll definetley become more actiev if you guys have fixed so I can convert AIML files. Right now, the AIML bot I'm working on atm has about 100 categories it can respond to, which I made in just a day

There are no plans to do so.

Sorry, I was away for a week.

Kingdom,
I used to think exactly like yourself. I spent several years working on AIML, and became quite advanced. When I came here I could not figure where to start and became frustrated.

Now, I have abondoned all my AIML bots on Pandorabots and on Metabolt in Second Life. The Forge is much more advanced.

Use - goto - instead of srai. Here we have - seeks - instead of -that- tag. And several levels of memory that far surpass -topic-, -set it-, -set name- etc in the AIML.

It would be nice to have several separate files like in the AIML, perhaps we can petition the Professor for this. But this is a minor issue.

Plugins are also great. Start with (adj-pos), (verb), (noun) etc. This saves so much code writing compared to the AIML.

Gosh, in the AIML there no concept of (prekey) and (postkey) like here. You have to write up every possible sentence. Here you just write the basic concept.

Symbolic reductions are also handled on the Forge better than in AIML, in my opinion. In AIML the files are read in alphabetical order, here we have rankings...

correction - there is concept of (prekey) and (postkey) in AIML - say

* mother
mother *

-star- would be the (prekey), (postkey)

But in the AIML there no concept of emotions - this is what makes the PF shine.

There are no emotions on Verbot AFAIK.

Didn't (prekey) and (postkey) basically become obsolete once general wildcards were introduced?