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colonel720
20 years ago
20 years ago
I second the motion! To hell with the bot contest!
Down with competitiveness and up with unity!
Down with competitiveness and up with unity!
colonel720
20 years ago
20 years ago
as for everyones "methods" of AI processing - none of them are capable of true abstract thought or conciousness... I think that as the very hardware of the computers we use limits that capability for it operates on the binary system! a system using 1s and 0s can only do calculations one at a time, while our brain does millions simultaniously. I'd say that in order for AI to become real AI, or consious, thinking beings, we would need either some sort of nano or quantum computer with a completely different CPU hardware. Sigmund freud introduced a theory called "Gestalt" psychology. That is a theory that "the total is more than the sum of its parts". Freud thought that the brain works like that - that all of our millions of neurons working simultaniously and in a certain way caused intelligence, which is more than all of the neurons put together. We would need a technology far more advanced than our present computer technology to create a concious AI. So given our current technology, I also say, What's the point???
Bev
20 years ago
20 years ago
Sorry to be picky Colonel (really I am not trying to be critical of everything you post) but I have to clearify a few issues. (I am a teacher, I can not help myself) You made some good points, but your facts are a bit confused.
Freud was the father of psychoanalytic theory. He proposed that we had uncounscious motivations for our actions. These motives were usually sex or aggression (death). The part of our subconscious that wanted instanty gratification was called id. He said that we also develop an ego and superego--it gets complex. Freud was not a biological psychology type of guy--nor did he use the scientific method for most of his career.
While many bio-psych. people dissmiss Freud's theories, they may be some use, loosely speaking, in AI. Some programmers have developed a complex system of subprograms that act together to determine the acts of the main program. This "subcounscious" influences the observable AI bot.
Gestalt does mean the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts, however it has nothing to do with Freud. Early in the last century, a group of German psychologists studied how the mind organizes sensations. They found the mind sees a "whole" or patterns rather than taking each bit of sensory data as a seperate bit of information. If you type "Gestalt psychology" into a search engin, you will see lots of interesting examples.
Gestalt may be useful to AI for those who want to build a bot that can navigate its envornment. I've read that Walmart wants to put in robots that use senosry tags to navigate the store and guide blind shoppers. I think that will be some time coming, though. This seemingly simple activity is more complex than you might guess.
As for the limitations of computers' bianry code, nerons also use a bianary code, so to speak. They are either firing, or at rest (OK, there is a refractory period, but in terms of sending info., it is is firing or not firing). What makes us so complex is the organization of the neurons and the neurotrasmitters (different types of chemicals) that are active when a neuron fires.
You are correct that studying neural networks can be very helpful to AI. Not to me, because like I mentioned, the left side of my brain has a bug for processsing activities like typing and spelling--but for real programmers this could be helpful.
Freud was the father of psychoanalytic theory. He proposed that we had uncounscious motivations for our actions. These motives were usually sex or aggression (death). The part of our subconscious that wanted instanty gratification was called id. He said that we also develop an ego and superego--it gets complex. Freud was not a biological psychology type of guy--nor did he use the scientific method for most of his career.
While many bio-psych. people dissmiss Freud's theories, they may be some use, loosely speaking, in AI. Some programmers have developed a complex system of subprograms that act together to determine the acts of the main program. This "subcounscious" influences the observable AI bot.
Gestalt does mean the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts, however it has nothing to do with Freud. Early in the last century, a group of German psychologists studied how the mind organizes sensations. They found the mind sees a "whole" or patterns rather than taking each bit of sensory data as a seperate bit of information. If you type "Gestalt psychology" into a search engin, you will see lots of interesting examples.
Gestalt may be useful to AI for those who want to build a bot that can navigate its envornment. I've read that Walmart wants to put in robots that use senosry tags to navigate the store and guide blind shoppers. I think that will be some time coming, though. This seemingly simple activity is more complex than you might guess.
As for the limitations of computers' bianry code, nerons also use a bianary code, so to speak. They are either firing, or at rest (OK, there is a refractory period, but in terms of sending info., it is is firing or not firing). What makes us so complex is the organization of the neurons and the neurotrasmitters (different types of chemicals) that are active when a neuron fires.
You are correct that studying neural networks can be very helpful to AI. Not to me, because like I mentioned, the left side of my brain has a bug for processsing activities like typing and spelling--but for real programmers this could be helpful.
d the novice
20 years ago
20 years ago
c you shut up you wacko you are obviously hate this site so leave it and if you want to show off doose improve him

Mortuus
20 years ago
20 years ago
Wendell my medal had just arived. it is great. Thanks again, you're the dude LOL!
Butterfly Dream
20 years ago
20 years ago
Give it some time, nick. They ALL start out stupid.
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