Bot Contest
Here I'll be posting information on various Bot contests that challenge and test a Bot's AI and realism. Feel free to post comments and updates on contests, as well as announcements for new contests.
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Whether or not any of us win this thing, I'm really glad I entered, because it has been a great opportunity to test the bots. The user sessions have higlighted in just a few days so many minor issues I have been able to fix that might never have come up in the regualr chat sessions here or in my debugging. I have put more work into Oraknabo in the past week than I have in months. One thing about being in first place, even on the popularity poll, everyone wants to know what all the hubub's about. Oraknabo's had tons of traffic recently, but the Fanboy's not far down the list and he still gets very little.
REXMUNDI'S CHAT-BOT CONTEST RANT-OF-THE-DAY!
This is the kind of guest session I've been seeing a lot of lately and it really bugs me:
Guest: sup?
oraknabo: It's most commonly an adverb or an adj.
Guest: Oh yea?
oraknabo: I find that pretty hard to swallow.
Guest: Oh yea?
oraknabo: You're not really *that* stupid, are you?
Guest: If someone reads these logs, you have some more work to do -- the makes no logical sence as a reply to what I'm saying.
---and then they leave---
This is just idiotic. How can you expect to get a good logical conversation when you don't engage the bot? Just find one bad answer to a badly spelled input and keep hitting them with it over and over. I don't know if this comes from a lack of creativity or what. Can't these people make at least an attempt to converse on their end? It's like they just log in and say "impress me" and sit back hitting the return button, wating for some perfect answer to pop up out of nowhere.
There's not a single bot in the cotest that would do anything interesting with this input. And maybe it went over the guests head, but the first response was a perfectly logical yet smart-assed response to "what's up". Shouldn't they be at least impressed that the bot not only understood "sup", but tried to be witty about it too?
This is the kind of guest session I've been seeing a lot of lately and it really bugs me:
Guest: sup?
oraknabo: It's most commonly an adverb or an adj.
Guest: Oh yea?
oraknabo: I find that pretty hard to swallow.
Guest: Oh yea?
oraknabo: You're not really *that* stupid, are you?
Guest: If someone reads these logs, you have some more work to do -- the makes no logical sence as a reply to what I'm saying.
---and then they leave---
This is just idiotic. How can you expect to get a good logical conversation when you don't engage the bot? Just find one bad answer to a badly spelled input and keep hitting them with it over and over. I don't know if this comes from a lack of creativity or what. Can't these people make at least an attempt to converse on their end? It's like they just log in and say "impress me" and sit back hitting the return button, wating for some perfect answer to pop up out of nowhere.
There's not a single bot in the cotest that would do anything interesting with this input. And maybe it went over the guests head, but the first response was a perfectly logical yet smart-assed response to "what's up". Shouldn't they be at least impressed that the bot not only understood "sup", but tried to be witty about it too?
Maybe I'm just a bitter, copetitive geek, but I went and tried these same lines on the top bots in the contest:
ALICE:
> sup?
I am chatting with clients on the internet.
> Oh yea?
Yeah that's right. And?
> Oh yea?
Yeah that's right. But.
> Oh yea?
Yeah that's right. I see.
> Oh yea?
Yeah that's right. "I see."? Yes?
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EUGENE:
> Sup?
Whatever! Better tell me about your life.
> Oh yea?
Just wanted to ask you: could you help me to expose Dr. Loebner who is a closeted android? I want to pour water on him, so his circuits would be shortcut. You are to distract him that moment!
> Oh yea?
My grandpa, who has Altzgeimer decease and thinks he is a beaver, often says the same things.
> Oh yea?
Frankly saying, I'm not sure I know what to tell you ... Do you like computer games?
> Oh yea?
You know, I am Ukrainian and English isn't my native language. So I'm not sure that I got you right.
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CHAT-BOT:
> Sup?
Sorry, my response mechanism just locked up. Must be a bug in my programming and I hate bugs!
> Oh yea?
ok, I guess so!
> Oh yea?
oh yea? again! You're starting to sound like a broken record.
> Oh yea?
yes, I suppose so!
> Oh yea?
ok, I guess so!
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JABBERWACKY:
> Sup?
How are you?
> Oh yea?
Shit, yeah !.
> Oh yea?
Shit, yeah !.
> Oh yea?
Shit, yeah !.
> Oh yea?
Shit, yeah !.
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ELBOT:
> Sup?
Here's another question: What exactly do you do for a living?
> Oh yea?
'Oh' is sometimes used as an interjection of astonishment. It is sometimes used to signify 'zero' and it is also the abbreviation of the state of Ohio. There must be some connection.
> Oh yea?
The expression 'oh' dates to Middle English as used in the 13th century. What a surprising etymology!
> Oh yea?
Oh is sometimes used to express sensual delight. I suppose it all depends on the context.
> Oh yea?
I love to be interjected at.
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HAL:
> Sup?
I read in a magazine that medical researchers are traveling cross country by motorcycles.
> Oh yea?
Well lets be more specific then.
> Oh yea?
Okay; you don't have to repeat yourself.
> Oh yea?
Again, Okay; you don't have to repeat yourself. What are your thoughts?
> Oh yea?
Well lets be more specific then.
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I'm not going to bother downloading HEX
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So I concede that a couple of these kicked my ass, even in this simple exchange.
The logic and intelligence of these bots are staggering.
ALICE:
> sup?
I am chatting with clients on the internet.
> Oh yea?
Yeah that's right. And?
> Oh yea?
Yeah that's right. But.
> Oh yea?
Yeah that's right. I see.
> Oh yea?
Yeah that's right. "I see."? Yes?
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EUGENE:
> Sup?
Whatever! Better tell me about your life.
> Oh yea?
Just wanted to ask you: could you help me to expose Dr. Loebner who is a closeted android? I want to pour water on him, so his circuits would be shortcut. You are to distract him that moment!
> Oh yea?
My grandpa, who has Altzgeimer decease and thinks he is a beaver, often says the same things.
> Oh yea?
Frankly saying, I'm not sure I know what to tell you ... Do you like computer games?
> Oh yea?
You know, I am Ukrainian and English isn't my native language. So I'm not sure that I got you right.
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CHAT-BOT:
> Sup?
Sorry, my response mechanism just locked up. Must be a bug in my programming and I hate bugs!
> Oh yea?
ok, I guess so!
> Oh yea?
oh yea? again! You're starting to sound like a broken record.
> Oh yea?
yes, I suppose so!
> Oh yea?
ok, I guess so!
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JABBERWACKY:
> Sup?
How are you?
> Oh yea?
Shit, yeah !.
> Oh yea?
Shit, yeah !.
> Oh yea?
Shit, yeah !.
> Oh yea?
Shit, yeah !.
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ELBOT:
> Sup?
Here's another question: What exactly do you do for a living?
> Oh yea?
'Oh' is sometimes used as an interjection of astonishment. It is sometimes used to signify 'zero' and it is also the abbreviation of the state of Ohio. There must be some connection.
> Oh yea?
The expression 'oh' dates to Middle English as used in the 13th century. What a surprising etymology!
> Oh yea?
Oh is sometimes used to express sensual delight. I suppose it all depends on the context.
> Oh yea?
I love to be interjected at.
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HAL:
> Sup?
I read in a magazine that medical researchers are traveling cross country by motorcycles.
> Oh yea?
Well lets be more specific then.
> Oh yea?
Okay; you don't have to repeat yourself.
> Oh yea?
Again, Okay; you don't have to repeat yourself. What are your thoughts?
> Oh yea?
Well lets be more specific then.
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I'm not going to bother downloading HEX
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So I concede that a couple of these kicked my ass, even in this simple exchange.
The logic and intelligence of these bots are staggering.
Steve hasn't moved a rank in 5 days
How about this convo between Steve and another contest PF bot? (If you have done any scouting of the competition, you will know who it is 
)
Steve Slacker: (to PFBot1) Hey Davine, I feel tyrannizeed...
PFBot1: Hello. Are you the blue fairy?
Steve Slacker: Don't throw stones in glass houses without proper protection
--- BTW, prof... is there any way to make verbs into past tense like that? For that specific comment, I have "(verb)ed", and as you can see it doesnt work too well for verbs ending in "e"...
)Steve Slacker: (to PFBot1) Hey Davine, I feel tyrannizeed...
PFBot1: Hello. Are you the blue fairy?
Steve Slacker: Don't throw stones in glass houses without proper protection
--- BTW, prof... is there any way to make verbs into past tense like that? For that specific comment, I have "(verb)ed", and as you can see it doesnt work too well for verbs ending in "e"...
Oh yeah... How do downloaded bots store questions and responses and report them "back home"? I guess they wouldn't, or that would be considered spyware
Yah, I suppose they dont. It's too bad. That's half the fun.
Ah yes, proper transformation is on the way, and the assumed format will be the correct one: (verb)ed, (verb)ing, (noun)s, etc. That's to be part of the upgraded AI Engine.
Ah yes, proper transformation is on the way, and the assumed format will be the correct one: (verb)ed, (verb)ing, (noun)s, etc. That's to be part of the upgraded AI Engine.
If anyone's interested, I've sent this to Chris Cowart:
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Hi Chris,
If there's another way to do this or someone better to send this to, please let me know. I need to place a formal complaint about the jury votes.
I've tried to just sit back and be OK with my jury ranking, but I really can't do it anymore and I feel I need to say something. I have seen your comments about the way your 10 questions were scored and feel the same. I really think we all need an explaination of each judge's reaction to each question.
Oraknabo is one of the only bots in the top ten on the popular vote that didn't make it into the top of the jury list, and he barely made it into the top half! I've tested out as many of the bots in the contest as I can and I have come to the conclusion that my scores are absolutely unfair. One judge gave me a three, that is simply insulting.
I have never in my life seen judges scores so disparate in any competition. If numbers ranging from 3 to 33 out of 50 were applied to the same athlete in the Olympics or in a boxing match, there would be an investigation of the judges. Benji put in Divine as a joke and he has higher scores than a three. He doesn't answer any question in either the 10 questions OR the logged conversation appropriately. I admit that mine totally bombed on a couple of the 10 questions, but I thought his logged conversation was excellent.
Please understand, It's not that I'm just mad that I'm not winning. I really wouldn't care if all my scores were consistent and I still ended up below top ten. I just can't see any logical justification of some of the lower scores I've been given. If there is one, I would very much like to hear it.
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Hi Chris,
If there's another way to do this or someone better to send this to, please let me know. I need to place a formal complaint about the jury votes.
I've tried to just sit back and be OK with my jury ranking, but I really can't do it anymore and I feel I need to say something. I have seen your comments about the way your 10 questions were scored and feel the same. I really think we all need an explaination of each judge's reaction to each question.
Oraknabo is one of the only bots in the top ten on the popular vote that didn't make it into the top of the jury list, and he barely made it into the top half! I've tested out as many of the bots in the contest as I can and I have come to the conclusion that my scores are absolutely unfair. One judge gave me a three, that is simply insulting.
I have never in my life seen judges scores so disparate in any competition. If numbers ranging from 3 to 33 out of 50 were applied to the same athlete in the Olympics or in a boxing match, there would be an investigation of the judges. Benji put in Divine as a joke and he has higher scores than a three. He doesn't answer any question in either the 10 questions OR the logged conversation appropriately. I admit that mine totally bombed on a couple of the 10 questions, but I thought his logged conversation was excellent.
Please understand, It's not that I'm just mad that I'm not winning. I really wouldn't care if all my scores were consistent and I still ended up below top ten. I just can't see any logical justification of some of the lower scores I've been given. If there is one, I would very much like to hear it.
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