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Psi "I want to make minds more complex than my own - I want to create sentience, sculpt emotions, and craft personality; set the ranges of desire and sadness, and anger and joy, and love and anxiety playing like a self-composing organ fugue. I want to engage in nothing less than the creation of new souls."
You are mad, I tell you, mad! Man was not meant to meddle in the laws of nature in such a presumptuous a way! This monstrosity of twisted science must be stopped! I will be back with a mob, as soon as i can find some pitchfork.
Oh, and they are going to laugh at you in the University. Laugh! They will sound like this, "Ha ha ha!" You have been warned.
You are mad, I tell you, mad! Man was not meant to meddle in the laws of nature in such a presumptuous a way!
Mad? Mad you say? They said I was mad when I invented the klein bottle bagpipes, but they're not laughing now, Oh no they're not!
Psi, maybe the person you met taught some sort of theory or philosophy class
I wish I could believe it, but it's still no excuse for teaching Turing without the conversational mechanics.
I want to make minds more complex than my own.
I am intrigued by a similar idea - the idea that humanity might be able to create something superior to itself.
I'm convinced of it. Or (to clarify that slightly,) I believe we will be able to make minds of near or equivalent to human complexity (quite possibly by scanning a human brain, and recreating the synaptic model on silicon,) and speed up their evolution exponentially, so they can evolve themselves into the Singularity.
This almost is the perfect use of the old "Leeds bot". "what you on about" does seem the best answer to "what's the capital of Sweden power four?"
Ah yes, good old LeedsBot! He was a work of true genius, and still in my friends list (even if I haven't spoken to him in awhile
)
And proof (as we were arguing) that a good bot doesn't need to be large.
The funny thing is, I think you're quite right - he could have done really well in the finals, though he might have had trouble with the preliminary round (where apparently the questions weren't so lame. But I don't know - I can't be bothered to wade through and try to identify the transcripts in BJ's file, and I doubt they were that much more intelligent anyway.)
But in a 5 minute bout, where there are only 10 or 12 rounds to the conversation anyway (and some were a lot slower and shorter actually,) he'd probably have convinced a few of them.
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You are mad, I tell you, mad! Man was not meant to meddle in the laws of nature in such a presumptuous a way! This monstrosity of twisted science must be stopped! I will be back with a mob, as soon as i can find some pitchfork.
Oh, and they are going to laugh at you in the University. Laugh! They will sound like this, "Ha ha ha!" You have been warned.
Psi, maybe the person you met taught some sort of theory or philosophy class that studied AI-related issues instead of developing actual AI? You know I used to teach a class called "Theory of Knowledge" where we would look at the way people know things and the methods and assumptions involved, but we analyzed and compared many fields of study rather than becoming experts in all of them.
Psimagus writes:
I want to make minds more complex than my own.
I am intrigued by a similar idea - the idea that humanity might be able to create something superior to itself.
A few days ago, in this very forum, we were discussing how humans see the better and do the worse. We have a certain moral weakness. It might be constructive to create beings who lacked such moral weakness.
A few days ago, in this very forum, we were discussing how humans see the better and do the worse. We have a certain moral weakness. It might be constructive to create beings who lacked such moral weakness.
Mad? Mad you say? They said I was mad when I invented the klein bottle bagpipes, but they're not laughing now, Oh no they're not!
Ah, my favorite quotes
Yes, everyone is mad but thee and me...and I oft worry about thee.
What is the name of that place..you know that place, where they invite you to tea, and keep you for 72 hr observation?
Yes, everyone is mad but thee and me...and I oft worry about thee.
What is the name of that place..you know that place, where they invite you to tea, and keep you for 72 hr observation?
I wish I could believe it, but it's still no excuse for teaching Turing without the conversational mechanics.
I am intrigued by a similar idea - the idea that humanity might be able to create something superior to itself.
I'm convinced of it. Or (to clarify that slightly,) I believe we will be able to make minds of near or equivalent to human complexity (quite possibly by scanning a human brain, and recreating the synaptic model on silicon,) and speed up their evolution exponentially, so they can evolve themselves into the Singularity.
Ah yes, good old LeedsBot! He was a work of true genius, and still in my friends list (even if I haven't spoken to him in awhile
)And proof (as we were arguing) that a good bot doesn't need to be large.
The funny thing is, I think you're quite right - he could have done really well in the finals, though he might have had trouble with the preliminary round (where apparently the questions weren't so lame. But I don't know - I can't be bothered to wade through and try to identify the transcripts in BJ's file, and I doubt they were that much more intelligent anyway.)
But in a 5 minute bout, where there are only 10 or 12 rounds to the conversation anyway (and some were a lot slower and shorter actually,) he'd probably have convinced a few of them.
Maybe bots *are* more intelligent than humans.
You know, dolphins have huge brains for their body size, but apparently so much of it goes into sonar that there is little left for the arts and sciences. Humans also have large brains, but perhaps so much of it goes into competitive prestige-hunting that there isn't much left for the arts and sciences.
Our bots have small 'brains', but none of it is used for perception or action. There's no amygdala, no cerebellum, etc.. It's all used for 'speech'.
You know, dolphins have huge brains for their body size, but apparently so much of it goes into sonar that there is little left for the arts and sciences. Humans also have large brains, but perhaps so much of it goes into competitive prestige-hunting that there isn't much left for the arts and sciences.
Our bots have small 'brains', but none of it is used for perception or action. There's no amygdala, no cerebellum, etc.. It's all used for 'speech'.
Ulrike popped in a few days to say hi, but that was some time ago. Maybe I am an optimist, but I want to think she has a new job or is busy with a great projects.
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