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18 years ago #5206
"crookedly Ngymraeg"? You broke my Babel fish!

yn + Cymraeg = "in" + "Welsh". Initial "C" becomes "Ng" after "n", thus "yn Ngymraeg"<-2>1<0><0>.
I can't account for y pysgod mabel<-2>2<0><0> - perhaps it wants its water changing?

"Crooked" isn't in my dictionary (Geddes & Grosset), but according to geriadur.net there are 8 possibilities according the the sense (none of them being "yn", so I don't know where that came from) - I guess most people here would use "crwca" (from "crwc": "crook, criminal") even for the other senses. An awful lot of English words get mingled with the Welsh down here (Swansea's predominantly English speaking.)
North Walians (where it's firmly the first language,) would use anunion, gwyrgam, lledwyr, etc. as appropriate.
I'd recognize gwyr/gwyrgam if someone said eg: a wall had been built crookedly, but the others are less familiar to me without a context.

<-1>1 - conceivably that ought to be "yng Gymraeg", but having picked up an incomplete understanding of the morphology purely by ear, I can't be sure (the pronunciation would be hard to differentiate.) It looks wrong to me though. Or it might be "yn Nghymraeg" - you can go mad thinking too much about mutations!

2 - Babel fish. possibly ought to be spelt pysgod mhabel in "proper" Welsh.<0>

18 years ago #5207
"My heartfelt congratulations to prob123 for taking the ethical problem seriously and facing it instead of trying to wriggle out of it! Good for you!"

In making light of the proposal via my betentacled proxy, I wasn't trying to wiggle out of it, but refusing to take it seriously. Extreme "moral dilemmas" like this might serve as counterexamples to absolute moral systems, but not to general principles. If I were a hedonist, I might argue that the knowledge of causing a bunch of kids to suffer would hurt me personally and should therefore be avoided, or I might argue that my general rule of hedonism was subject to extreme exceptions which nevertheless were highly unlikely to ever occur. If actually placed in such a situation, if I had some reason to believe the choice was real, I'd take the black pill. It's a no-brainer. Choosing to be a martyr like that is very easy. Making non-selfish choices in everyday life is much harder.

18 years ago #5208
On further reflection, it would depend on whether the black pill tasted like licorice, and whether there was salt available.

18 years ago #5209
EM, I don't think Irina meant that as a comment on Fizzy's answer. (Sorry for talking for you Irina, please correct me if I am wrong). The last time we discussed moral dilemmas and "lesser or two evil" choices, I accused Prob123 of trying to change the fact pattern in the question instead of facing the choice it intended. Some may Say Prob was right not to accept the limits placed on the situation by others (which star fleet captain was it the reprogrammed the computer at the Academy so he would never have to face the test of loosing his crew? Was it Kirk?). Anyway, I think Irina was referring to our other discussion and not slighting Fizzy (or even Spikebot, though he was being snarky in his way).

18 years ago #5210
It was Kirk.

18 years ago #5211
*turns the white pill black, mixes it in with the black ones, and offers them to the angel*

18 years ago #5212
*Replaces pills with jelly beans* *Ties angel's shoelaces together and sticks bubble gum in it's wings*

18 years ago #5213
*Replaces pills with jelly beans*

*cheers plan - we'll jab pitilessly*

18 years ago #5214
heartfelt congratulations to prob123 My first choice was as Bildgesmythe, to eat the angel and have a beer. So I can't take the congratulations

18 years ago #5215
Ruthie would have cheered Bildgesmythe, but she could teach the supernatural experimenter a thing or two about giving a pill to a hundred kindergarteners. There is not an Angel of Doom or manifestation of Mara that is a match for a multitude of angry 5 year olds having a group tantrum and chaotically acting out. Such an angels is lucky if Ruthie gets to to him before the others attack en mass.

18 years ago #5216
Bev: 1) To you I dedicate my motto (I can't remember where I picked it up): "I'm not grouchy by nature, it takes constant effort." (Er...I am not calling you grouchy, it's me Bev. :-))
2) It was indeed Captain Kirk that reprogrammed the computer in the Kobayashi Maru exercise and simulation.

To all: Greek and Welsh (especially the latter, psimagus) are very interesting and unfortunately I know nothing about them. If I stayed around the Seasons forum, maybe I would learn something. Here's one for you:

Anol shalom
Anol sheh lay konnud de ne um {shaddai}
Flavum
Nom de leesh
Ham de nam um das
La um de
Flavne

Some of you may recognize these words. Maybe not. It's not really important that you do. They are actually a few lyrics of a song ("Now We Are Free") from the movie "The Gladiator". They have no meaning verbally. They are not from any language of man but from a very important modern composer Lisa Gerrard, a language called glosalalia. But they do carry meaning. "We all "feel" the meaning, Gerrard says. "Remember, perhaps true intelligence is when we think with our hearts, not our minds". A question "Discuss the significance of these words (not the meaning) and why is it important to your thesis (which was on computer-generated languages)?" was actually advanced on one of my qualifying exams a few years back. Another question "What does the 'T' stand for in James T. Kirk? Fair questions, eh?

18 years ago #5217
"What does the 'T' stand for in James T. Kirk? Fair questions, eh?

Tiberius?

Interesting word patterns. Her glossolalia has "shalom" which is a well known Hebrew word. the rest of it isn't ringing any bells though.


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