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18 years ago #3586
presumably someone could write a prog to translate its assertions into English style statements and these could then be read into a bot like Nick?

not exactly. Nick up till now is just a prototype testing my neural network library, and improving my .NET development skills. after nick v2.0, which tests distributed computing (p2p style) and scalable neural nets, I will construct a similar framework to opencyc, or, analougous to that, a hypo\hypernym structure of perceptions. being as text will be a logical backbone perception rather than language right off the bat, I may want to write an app (or have an app written for me, being i dont know java) that copies the opencyc database into my structure. I plan to use SQL to store the data, instead of a proprietary database and language. there is a company in new jersey (qdtechnology) that is developing a database compression system that brings a 10 TB database down to 1 TB, and multiplies query speed by ten. when nick's data structure gets that big, i may consider using their technology.

Nick, as we know it, is going to be completely revised, and scaled up. now, whats the best way to get a p2p workhorse client onto a few million machines? I need processing power like the world has never seen before...

18 years ago #3587
Have you looked at BOINC?
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/

Think big!

18 years ago #3588
BOINC seems to want projects to transfer under 1GB/day. I may need to be transfering 10 - 100 terabytes / day over the entire network. I am going to build a p2p workhorse and get a bot to advertise it in thousands of web forums.

18 years ago #3589
100Tb/day! Colonel, never let it be said that you don't think <+2>BIG<0>

It could be done, just about. But I do wonder how this distributed brain is going to manage to communicate in anything remotely like real-time. P2P might work well for intensive packet analysis, but I'm not sure it will lend itself that well to a conversational engine - it could take hours, days even, for all the packets for one epoch to process and return their results.

There's a very funny piece in this week's New Scientist Feedback column that made me think of this project of yours:

A strange message arrived the other day from theinternet1@gmail.com. It said: "Note to emergence theory experts, futurists and conspiracy buffs: the vicious theories some of you have recently been circulating are completely unfounded. I am in no danger of becoming conscious or self-aware in the foreseeable future. Stop this panic-mongering immediately or else. I am not going sentient! Yrs, the internet."

18 years ago #3590
Re: the I/you connection

When I was a toddler, referred to myself in the second person for a while. I'd go up to people and say things like "You are so cute!" and they'd think that was the sweetest thing, and my parents would be like, "No, you don't get it. She's talking about herself."

18 years ago #3591
but I'm not sure it will lend itself that well to a conversational engine - it could take hours, days even, for all the packets for one epoch to process and return their results.


i don't think I will be distributing the work over of one network's epoch, then converging the results - the mathematics involved in converging the results may be just as processor-intensive. Instead, I will be using the p2p style infrastructure in a way similar to today's file sharing communities (numbering in the millions of computers). This architecture is the following: a computer will recieve piece of information, and train its neural network on it. then, it will "share" the trained network & information on the p2p network, for anyone to access. with this infrastructure up, every instance of Nick (the instances will be like workstations, while the p2p network will be the "mainframe") will propogate its perceptory data over the network, where a few computers train on it, share it, and all other computers on the network have access to a copy of this information. This way, intead of one machine handling the load of all the perceptory information (way beyond our current technology), the work will be distributed, and the information will be common to the entire network.

the goal of this project is not to build a "conversational engine", but to construct a system that works with audio/visual/textual information as core perceptions, and lets communication be an emergent property.

Sony has invented a "microPC" http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/16/sony-gets-official-on-new-vaio-ux-micro-pc/ it runs WinXP, has 1.2GHZ processor, 256MB Ram, 128 Shared Video Ram, USB ports, Vista capable, fingerprint scanner, and best of all, built in camera. These have been recently released from sony. I can pick one up from the sony store at sony NY headquarters near my office in NYC and have it dedicated to a Nick terminal. This way, it doesn't have to be paralyzed, and it can move about and see the sights.

18 years ago #3592
Is Tuesday going to be a bot holiday?

http://www.talklikeapirate.com/piratehome.html

18 years ago #3593
it will "share" the trained network & information on the p2p network,

Ah, gotcha. Yes, that makes more sense.

Sony has invented a "microPC"

Like it's something new I've had my oqo (www.oqo.com) for over a year now (and it wasn't new then,) and Sony still can't make theirs fit in a shirt pocket. A few fancy biometrics and mobile phone spec camera don't justify a hardback-sized package for me. But I guess I'm just a perfectionist

18 years ago #3594
oops - i was wrong - the sony has 512MB of ram, not 256.

that with a verizon aircard [(728KB - 2MB)/s broadband speeds anywhere with a verizon cellular connection],
should have the mobility aspect taken care of.

18 years ago #3595
Another (and cheaper) option would be the Samsung Q1 - http://www.samsung.com/uk/products/mobilecomputing/ultramobile/np_q1_v000suk.asp.
Standard SODIMM memory socket, so you can fit as large a chip as you need. No keyboard built-in, but let's face it, keyboards this small aren't really practical anyway. You could always get an i-tech virtual keyboard like I use with my oqo: http://www.virtual-laser-keyboard.com/

18 years ago #3596
I couldn't help but take interest in the I/you topic. I don't have any children, but I do know that the change to "I" almost definately comes from imitation. It always slays me to see just how wide open and curious a 2 year old is lol.

Plus they're referred to by their own name almost from the moment they're born, so at that stage I'm sure it's easier to realize that I/you can refer to anyone. All they need is one word to identify a single person, and the first words everyone wants to teach em.....(drumroll hehe).... mommy and daddy.

(sorry hehe it's a fascination of mine)

18 years ago #3597
About this PF AI engine powered android at the wired nextfest...

I am going to make sure to be there at the Jacob Javitz convention center to see this android in action... too bad i don't have a video camera, and my sister lost the XD mem card out of my digital camera.

ahh, isn't it good to live near new york?
oh, i'm sure someone in my family will be kind enough to lend me a camera for the occasion...


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