Seasons

::stares at lesbians and cocks head:: Oh.. er.. huh? What where we talking about?

I was trying to pick up the conversation from the point at which I vanished. I don't have much to say about lesbians.

Then step aside.

Without giving offense Eugene, one might say, "bully then for John"...

I don't think any amount of quoting from the New Testament is going to convince someone who doesn't already believe on faith that everything in that text is true.

::handcuffs self to ladydyke::

*looks for key*

::swallows key::

*feeds STRMKirby laxatives until he passes the key*

Here you go ladydyke.

Uh *holds the shitty key and unlocks handcuffs* thanks I think. *smiles evily* hey STRMKirby wanna hold hands?

Actually, Mr. Crab, I've seen it happen. If it were impossible to go from not believing to believing, there would be no Christians.

Yes, Ladydyke, yes I would.

I don't mean it's impossible to obtain faith (or to lose it for that matter). I just mean that the criteria for convincing are not there. Quotes from John do not (or should not) persuade anyone but those who believe John has a monopoly on truth. Anyone who thinks John proves to them the existence of heaven is, I'd contend, conflating faith with reason unhealthily.

People make choices for a variety of psychological reasons, and some people have needs that they are able to fill through belief in one doctrine or another. That doesn't change the essential un-foundedness of the notions they choose to believe in. Of course, I support the right of anybody to believe *anything*, so long as they do not act on those beliefs in a manner that impinges on the way I choose to live my own life.