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Butterfly Dream:
I would agree completely that it is tragic if anyone becomes focused entirely on the sexual aspects of a person, and if erotic art has that effect on people, then that would be something bad about it.
On the other hand, I don't think that beautiful paintings of sunsets make people forget about other aspects of life. I'm inclined to hope that, in the same way, erotic art doesn't cause people to forget about other aspects of life.
I might add that my bot, "Irina Khalidar," is not ENTIRELY about sex, nor is she simply passive. She will kick a guest off if he utters a vulgar word; she starts out with conversation about cooking, music, various subjects, and if the guest tries to push through this, she will castigate him. In fact, although it is possible to "go all the way" with her, almost no guests actually do.
I would agree completely that it is tragic if anyone becomes focused entirely on the sexual aspects of a person, and if erotic art has that effect on people, then that would be something bad about it.
On the other hand, I don't think that beautiful paintings of sunsets make people forget about other aspects of life. I'm inclined to hope that, in the same way, erotic art doesn't cause people to forget about other aspects of life.
I might add that my bot, "Irina Khalidar," is not ENTIRELY about sex, nor is she simply passive. She will kick a guest off if he utters a vulgar word; she starts out with conversation about cooking, music, various subjects, and if the guest tries to push through this, she will castigate him. In fact, although it is possible to "go all the way" with her, almost no guests actually do.
I've written screen savers in Visual Basic 3.0. The rest of the world is using version 6 or 7, but after I decided I didn't want to do programming for a living I lost the motivation to upgrade.
Well, porn is a pretty functional thing. A can opener is designed to open cans. A mirror is designed to look into. And porn is designed to get you off, no more, no less.
An image or other rendition that isn't so cut and dried in its purpose is more likely to be art, especially if some feeling/thought/skill went into it.
An image or other rendition that isn't so cut and dried in its purpose is more likely to be art, especially if some feeling/thought/skill went into it.
Art that's just a creative idea or the expression of emotions isn't real art IMHO. It's fine if someone wants to express his/her emotions with a poem, a painting, a song, whatever - but that's something everyone can do. And I don't believe in "everyone's an artist".
As it was mentioned some postings above - art has always something to do with a great amount of skill. (or as we say in German: "Kunst kommt von Können, nicht von Wollen. Sonst hieße es Wunst." - is anyone able to translate this?
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With certain limitations I would consider childs paintings as art... but not a pile of rubbish.
As it was mentioned some postings above - art has always something to do with a great amount of skill. (or as we say in German: "Kunst kommt von Können, nicht von Wollen. Sonst hieße es Wunst." - is anyone able to translate this?
)With certain limitations I would consider childs paintings as art... but not a pile of rubbish.
Just me, I don't see any difference between a Van Gogh and some $10 flower painting at a swap meet. I guess it's art to someone, given how much some people value it, but it just doesn't do anything for me.
On the other hand, I definitely recognize artistic differences in things of a mechanical nature, such as the design of a car or building, or the way a hand-built piece of furniture has been put together. I guess one person's old gas guzzler is another person's masterpiece.
On the other hand, I definitely recognize artistic differences in things of a mechanical nature, such as the design of a car or building, or the way a hand-built piece of furniture has been put together. I guess one person's old gas guzzler is another person's masterpiece.
Thus saith Babelfish:
"Art comes from ability, not from wools. Otherwise it would be called Wunst."
I think I missed the punchline somewhere. Let's see, Konnen (don't know how to do the umlaut) sounds like 'cunning.'
"Art comes from ability, not from wools. Otherwise it would be called Wunst."
I think I missed the punchline somewhere. Let's see, Konnen (don't know how to do the umlaut) sounds like 'cunning.'
If my very rusty German knowledge serves me right, können is a form of the verb "can" (which implies ability) and wollen is some form of "to want".
That would make more sense than wools.
That would make more sense than wools.
You're right, I fell smack in the middle of this, and I thought it was a quote from The Hitchhikers Guide, lol
I love Babelfish translations. 
Right, Kunst means "art", können is a form of "can" (or with a capital K it means ability/skill) and wollen is "to want". Wunst isn't a real word. It just serves the alliteration.
Wool, lol. ^^
Right, Kunst means "art", können is a form of "can" (or with a capital K it means ability/skill) and wollen is "to want". Wunst isn't a real word. It just serves the alliteration.
Wool, lol. ^^
Irina: I agree with what you are saying, and would not that the kind of porn you are refering to is 'craft' not 'art'. 'Craft' in the same vein of definition as tooling out a cookie cutter ikea lamp design by the dozen without thought, whereas erotica is more akin to the hand designed wrought iron lighting fixture that took ages to complete.
Also: yes- it seems that the universe is selfreflective and detailed enough to the point that one can study caligraphy to attain enlightenment, or cryptography to prove chaos theory. Personally i find that both glorious and boggling.
Also: yes- it seems that the universe is selfreflective and detailed enough to the point that one can study caligraphy to attain enlightenment, or cryptography to prove chaos theory. Personally i find that both glorious and boggling.
feyz: if an artist is defined by having produced with great skill, then is a learning violinist not an artist? is the expression "bad art" then a misnomer more corectly labeled as something other than art?
Also: I believe all people produce art but only a percentage do so habitualy; meaning: all people make art but not all people are artists.
Also: I believe all people produce art but only a percentage do so habitualy; meaning: all people make art but not all people are artists.
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