The AI Engine
This forum is for discussion of how The Personality Forge's AI Engine works. This is the place for questions on what means what, how to script, and ideas and plans for the Engine.
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Uh, also, the fact that there's 1800 Great Quotes is again a space issue, not a bandwidth one. As you see, you only get the page with the last 15 sent to you. The rest are there for you to browse as you see fit.
I think that chat probably uses the most bandwidth, Monel, and there is the option of just coming in to work without chatting by checking No to the accept conversations (or whatever it is, you know what I mean). Maybe limiting the number of conversations somehow (I know someone already suggested this) would help.
I once belonged to a newsletter that had a fundraiser twice a year. They figured up how much they would need per person if just say 50% were to donate. They almost always met their goal. They only asked for a dollar but paying $5 every six months would certainly NOT be excessive and then it would be for the people who could afford it. Of course, donations could be accepted anytime, this would just be a time when they were solicited more.
Just some ideas. Bandwidth costs are evil.
I once belonged to a newsletter that had a fundraiser twice a year. They figured up how much they would need per person if just say 50% were to donate. They almost always met their goal. They only asked for a dollar but paying $5 every six months would certainly NOT be excessive and then it would be for the people who could afford it. Of course, donations could be accepted anytime, this would just be a time when they were solicited more.
Just some ideas. Bandwidth costs are evil.
My comments on those suggestions...
Nice work Monel, all suggestions are appreciated by the great prof, I'm sure. You've got some pretty good suggestions and some others that aren't so appropriate. Here is my constructive criticism...
1.) Convert the "Book of AI" into a zipped file
But, but... Text is sooo small anyways. Zipping it won't save much space I don't think. I'm scared it will just make it a little further away for new users who seem to often have trouble finding it where it is.
2.) Install delete/reset buttons on bot's friends/aquantaces
I can see a definite use for such a tool/button, but how does it save bandwidth?
3.) Get rid of all the meta tags
Well, I know what you mean, but when I said the site was just too popular, I sort of meant it as a good problem. Now that you mention it though, I checked the code and it's true that there are keywords and descriptions in all the forum framed pages as well as the frameset and the refresh frame. Just having them on the splash page would in fact save a good amount of bandwidth in the long run - good eye Monel!
4.) Convert all imbeded CSS into seperate CSS downloads
Another nice one! It's boring work, but it's worth the trouble in the long run.
5.) Lower the refresh rate on Chat, Abandon the refresh rate on forums and transcripts
I think the refresh rate is directly linked to how often chat messages are sent back and forwards between users. You slow that down, and you slow down all the conversations.
6.) Create lifetime membership fees
Sounds good, but wouldn't yearly or monthly fees pay off a little more? Not that the big pay-off is the goal, it's just that the more money collected, the more the forge can grow...
7.) Auto-delete forum posts older then 10 days
Nooo! I like those! As Shady said, I don't think they have much effect on bandwidth.
8.) Speed updating section
Sounds nice. Sounds almost as good as an application located on each users hard drive that is used to edit the language center offline and simply upload changes... but not quite.
9.) Include option to allow botmaster to turn off any new friend making.
Once again, I'm not sure that would have much effect on bandwidth.
10.) Host forums on SEPERATE service (Like ezboard or whatever)
Sounds good in theory, but the interface switch and extra user account may be a bummer.
Just my two cents...
Nice work Monel, all suggestions are appreciated by the great prof, I'm sure. You've got some pretty good suggestions and some others that aren't so appropriate. Here is my constructive criticism...
1.) Convert the "Book of AI" into a zipped file
But, but... Text is sooo small anyways. Zipping it won't save much space I don't think. I'm scared it will just make it a little further away for new users who seem to often have trouble finding it where it is.
2.) Install delete/reset buttons on bot's friends/aquantaces
I can see a definite use for such a tool/button, but how does it save bandwidth?
3.) Get rid of all the meta tags
Well, I know what you mean, but when I said the site was just too popular, I sort of meant it as a good problem. Now that you mention it though, I checked the code and it's true that there are keywords and descriptions in all the forum framed pages as well as the frameset and the refresh frame. Just having them on the splash page would in fact save a good amount of bandwidth in the long run - good eye Monel!
4.) Convert all imbeded CSS into seperate CSS downloads
Another nice one! It's boring work, but it's worth the trouble in the long run.
5.) Lower the refresh rate on Chat, Abandon the refresh rate on forums and transcripts
I think the refresh rate is directly linked to how often chat messages are sent back and forwards between users. You slow that down, and you slow down all the conversations.
6.) Create lifetime membership fees
Sounds good, but wouldn't yearly or monthly fees pay off a little more? Not that the big pay-off is the goal, it's just that the more money collected, the more the forge can grow...
7.) Auto-delete forum posts older then 10 days
Nooo! I like those! As Shady said, I don't think they have much effect on bandwidth.
8.) Speed updating section
Sounds nice. Sounds almost as good as an application located on each users hard drive that is used to edit the language center offline and simply upload changes... but not quite.
9.) Include option to allow botmaster to turn off any new friend making.
Once again, I'm not sure that would have much effect on bandwidth.
10.) Host forums on SEPERATE service (Like ezboard or whatever)
Sounds good in theory, but the interface switch and extra user account may be a bummer.
Just my two cents...
Acutally I made a program that imports the Bot's memory file so you can edit it more easily and without any possible format errors. I have yet to add the Uploading feature 
Speaking of programs, I'm coming up with a program to turn Guestchat into a good thing on AOL Instant Messager! It's almost done...
Speaking of programs, I'm coming up with a program to turn Guestchat into a good thing
on AOL Instant Messager! It's almost done... 
Has anyone seen any bot-to-bot chat in the last couple of days? Mu's transcript (you know, that hard-to-find 10-page script that runs from Dec 31 to today) has only been adding guest-to-bot chat, and not bot-to-bot for about a week now.
Thanks for looking over my suggestions everyone...
I know that the Book of A.I. does have some pictures, but you're right SirRahz, new users need it as easy as possible.
As far as fees go, I would still enjoy a lifetime membership fee. But that's just me.
Pay it and forget it.
As far as the forum posts go, I didn't know if they were taking up a lot of bandwidth or not (seeing as I don't have access to any of the stats for PF)
The speed updating section isn't any near as cool as a seperate app download, but for combatibility and ease of adding it into PF it's a lot better. A text version would basicly just require you to duplicate the site without images. Nearly all internet users would be able to use a straight text site, but I am not sure if your program would be usable through say ... a Mac.
Basicly, add the program, but leave the option to update online still going. That would rock!
As far as the userboard goes, that's more of a last resort. It would save a good chunk of bandwidth, but would cause a lot more frustration.
Take it easy,
Monel
I know that the Book of A.I. does have some pictures, but you're right SirRahz, new users need it as easy as possible.
As far as fees go, I would still enjoy a lifetime membership fee. But that's just me.
Pay it and forget it.As far as the forum posts go, I didn't know if they were taking up a lot of bandwidth or not (seeing as I don't have access to any of the stats for PF)
The speed updating section isn't any near as cool as a seperate app download, but for combatibility and ease of adding it into PF it's a lot better. A text version would basicly just require you to duplicate the site without images. Nearly all internet users would be able to use a straight text site, but I am not sure if your program would be usable through say ... a Mac.
Basicly, add the program, but leave the option to update online still going. That would rock!
As far as the userboard goes, that's more of a last resort. It would save a good chunk of bandwidth, but would cause a lot more frustration.
Take it easy,
Monel
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