Bot Contest
Here I'll be posting information on various Bot contests that challenge and test a Bot's AI and realism. Feel free to post comments and updates on contests, as well as announcements for new contests.
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I want to say THANK YOU!!!!! to Doly and to Paint Patricia for having soooooooooo very many conversations with my bot, even when she sucked. 
I adjusted the agreement to be something beneficial to both the Loebner people and the Botmasters, and softened the tone. Here it is:
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Agreement for Information & Communication in the Loebner Competition
We, the below-signed botmasters, request the following points of protocol in the Loebner Contest.
1) That information will be freely and promptly provided. Requests for information on how the finalists are chosen, when and where open events are taking place, and any contest-related information should be responded to in a reasonable amount of time; that being within a week or two when the Loebner Competition is not underway, and within two to three days when it is.
2) That requests for information or complaints at failures to abide by this agreement not be taken as cause for dismissal. We the botmasters put in at least as much time creating our AI as you do in running the contest, and we deserve to know how the contest we are involved in is being run. We do not believe a scientific contest should be a black box from which the winners are mysteriously chosen.
3) That requests for information from contestants to the committee be presented in a respectful manner. Indeed, with communication lines open, there would be no reason to complain in the first place, and harsh emails are not a constructive way to solve problems.
4) That cancelled or rescheduled public events are announced at least a full day beforehand. The growing enthusiasm for AI is causing more people to become involved in AI-related events, and those willing to travel or make plans to attend such events deserve to know if the event will take place.
We all want to see AI grow and develop into more and more impressive areas, and we think these basic protocols of communication should be a part of any organized event, be it commercially or privately funded, run by individual or committee, for profit or not.
BotMasters
Benji Adams- Gaia
Patricia Corron- Karisma Trishia
Fred Roberts- Elbot
Matthew Lange- Steve Slacker
Chris Cowart- Talk-Bot
Joy Harwood- God Louise
Kevin Copple- Ella
Jon Booth- Oraknabo
Doly Garcia- Polish Poet
Loebner Committee Members
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Agreement for Information & Communication in the Loebner Competition
We, the below-signed botmasters, request the following points of protocol in the Loebner Contest.
1) That information will be freely and promptly provided. Requests for information on how the finalists are chosen, when and where open events are taking place, and any contest-related information should be responded to in a reasonable amount of time; that being within a week or two when the Loebner Competition is not underway, and within two to three days when it is.
2) That requests for information or complaints at failures to abide by this agreement not be taken as cause for dismissal. We the botmasters put in at least as much time creating our AI as you do in running the contest, and we deserve to know how the contest we are involved in is being run. We do not believe a scientific contest should be a black box from which the winners are mysteriously chosen.
3) That requests for information from contestants to the committee be presented in a respectful manner. Indeed, with communication lines open, there would be no reason to complain in the first place, and harsh emails are not a constructive way to solve problems.
4) That cancelled or rescheduled public events are announced at least a full day beforehand. The growing enthusiasm for AI is causing more people to become involved in AI-related events, and those willing to travel or make plans to attend such events deserve to know if the event will take place.
We all want to see AI grow and develop into more and more impressive areas, and we think these basic protocols of communication should be a part of any organized event, be it commercially or privately funded, run by individual or committee, for profit or not.
BotMasters
Benji Adams- Gaia
Patricia Corron- Karisma Trishia
Fred Roberts- Elbot
Matthew Lange- Steve Slacker
Chris Cowart- Talk-Bot
Joy Harwood- God Louise
Kevin Copple- Ella
Jon Booth- Oraknabo
Doly Garcia- Polish Poet
Loebner Committee Members
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Well done, Prof!
I'm still wondering what did the Loebner organizers consider rude e-mails. I know there was more than a little friction around the semi-final event, but when they started asking for TOTAL RESPECT, as far as I know, nobody had insulted them... at least, not what I'd call insults.
I'm still wondering what did the Loebner organizers consider rude e-mails. I know there was more than a little friction around the semi-final event, but when they started asking for TOTAL RESPECT, as far as I know, nobody had insulted them... at least, not what I'd call insults.
OK I see what might have been judges....from THIS week. It's impossible to tell for sure, since there are suddenly so many guests.
Doly said "I'm still wondering what did the Loebner organizers consider rude e-mails. I know there was more than a little friction around the semi-final event, but when they started asking for TOTAL RESPECT, as far as I know, nobody had insulted them... at least, not what I'd call insults."
If you don't receive our emails, how do you know the content of them? I have been receiving 3 to 4 emailed viruses per day for the past 3 weeks. Neil has received numerous threats and plenty of rude emails. But why do you think it is any of your business about the content of the email we receive?
If you don't receive our emails, how do you know the content of them? I have been receiving 3 to 4 emailed viruses per day for the past 3 weeks. Neil has received numerous threats and plenty of rude emails. But why do you think it is any of your business about the content of the email we receive?
Benji said: "If they had just said up front that they would choose the finalists in their own fashion and let us know how they had chosen them, then I'd have accepted that. I dont think the contest being democratic is the imporant thing. Informing us of what's going on is. But they said there would be an event to decide the semifinalists. At this point the best they can do is to simply select the 8 finalists as in past years.
Perhaps I will just send the Agreement over, and get more signatures as they come... "
I have entered the Loebner contest 6 times, and was fortunate to win it twice. If you think we have handled it badly, I invite you to ask other former Loebner contestants about their experiences and try to understand the history of the contest rather than try to make it conform to your personal requirements.
I'm not saying we've handled everyting flawlessly, but your complaints seem petty to me compared with some of the things the rest of us have gone through in the past, which invaribly include last minute changes, bitter flame wars, and disappointment. Persistence is omnipotent.
You buy the ticket, you take the ride...
Regards,
Robby Garner
Perhaps I will just send the Agreement over, and get more signatures as they come... "
I have entered the Loebner contest 6 times, and was fortunate to win it twice. If you think we have handled it badly, I invite you to ask other former Loebner contestants about their experiences and try to understand the history of the contest rather than try to make it conform to your personal requirements.
I'm not saying we've handled everyting flawlessly, but your complaints seem petty to me compared with some of the things the rest of us have gone through in the past, which invaribly include last minute changes, bitter flame wars, and disappointment. Persistence is omnipotent.
You buy the ticket, you take the ride...
Regards,
Robby Garner
One other thing that you might consider while you're thinking about this is that this is the first year that non-programmers have had any access at all to the Loebner Prize Contest. Furthermore, there have never been any web based programs in the contest before this year. Again, check your history if you don't believe what I say.
I've worked very hard to make these 2 things possible, because I thought it would include the latest technology. In previous years, that has not been the case.
I know it is disappointing to not be selected, or to not win, I have been there. I also will not make any excuses for anyone else's behavior in this, but there is always room for improvement, and there is always next year, so don't give up trying. I didn't.
Sincerely,
Robby.
I've worked very hard to make these 2 things possible, because I thought it would include the latest technology. In previous years, that has not been the case.
I know it is disappointing to not be selected, or to not win, I have been there. I also will not make any excuses for anyone else's behavior in this, but there is always room for improvement, and there is always next year, so don't give up trying. I didn't.
Sincerely,
Robby.
Point taken, but just to point out, to quote rexmundi,
"Again, can anyone PROVE that this event even happened? How can we accept a list of finalist when NOBODY HAS A TRANSCRIPT???"
This site, connected to the turing hub, would receive any and all conversations made, and on the day of the contest, there were none.
Respectfully,
Shadyman
"Again, can anyone PROVE that this event even happened? How can we accept a list of finalist when NOBODY HAS A TRANSCRIPT???"
This site, connected to the turing hub, would receive any and all conversations made, and on the day of the contest, there were none.
Respectfully,
Shadyman
Shadyman said "Point taken, but just to point out, to quote rexmundi,
"Again, can anyone PROVE that this event even happened? How can we accept a list of finalist when NOBODY HAS A TRANSCRIPT???"
This site, connected to the turing hub, would receive any and all conversations made, and on the day of the contest, there were none."
If you're talking about the semi-finals event, that never happened. Take my word for it. Hugh Loebner didn't want it to happen, and in my posts to my own discussion list, I said that it would be an IMS-only event. Our reason for doing it in the first place was exhibit and give exposure to the contestants that had web-based entries. I'm sorry it didn't work out, but you know what they say: "the road to hell is paved with good intentions."
The evaluations began with the transcripts, and our people talked with the entrants on an ongoing basis. Given 40 applicants, certainly you don't think this evaluation took place on a single day.
In past Loebner contests, where no web-based programs were allowed, the selection was based on the submitted transcripts alone! Of the six times I entered the contest from 1994 to 2000, I was never told once by anyone how or why my program was selected.
There is nothing in the Loebner Contest "charter" that requires for anyone to be given an explanation for their selection. The host (usually a univeristy) has total autonomy in selecting the 8 finalists.
However, the judges are the people who select the winner on the day of the contest. Those people make a purely subjective opinion as to the rank of each terminal they talk to, from most human to least human. Therefore, the selection of the 8 finalists represents the host's choice of the 8 entrants that they feel are most likely to be able to pass for human.
Please remember that this is a Turing test and not a chatterbot contest. The object of a Turing test is a binary decision of whether a thing is either human or not human. It is not a beauty pageant, an election process, or an essay contest. The goal is to find the most "human" computer program, which in modern terms is often a combination of an engine and an author. Personality forge beat out such competition as Kurzweil, and other renowned AI companies, so you should all be very proud of that.
And by the way, Congratulations!
Respectfully yours,
Robby.
"Again, can anyone PROVE that this event even happened? How can we accept a list of finalist when NOBODY HAS A TRANSCRIPT???"
This site, connected to the turing hub, would receive any and all conversations made, and on the day of the contest, there were none."
If you're talking about the semi-finals event, that never happened. Take my word for it. Hugh Loebner didn't want it to happen, and in my posts to my own discussion list, I said that it would be an IMS-only event. Our reason for doing it in the first place was exhibit and give exposure to the contestants that had web-based entries. I'm sorry it didn't work out, but you know what they say: "the road to hell is paved with good intentions."
The evaluations began with the transcripts, and our people talked with the entrants on an ongoing basis. Given 40 applicants, certainly you don't think this evaluation took place on a single day.
In past Loebner contests, where no web-based programs were allowed, the selection was based on the submitted transcripts alone! Of the six times I entered the contest from 1994 to 2000, I was never told once by anyone how or why my program was selected.
There is nothing in the Loebner Contest "charter" that requires for anyone to be given an explanation for their selection. The host (usually a univeristy) has total autonomy in selecting the 8 finalists.
However, the judges are the people who select the winner on the day of the contest. Those people make a purely subjective opinion as to the rank of each terminal they talk to, from most human to least human. Therefore, the selection of the 8 finalists represents the host's choice of the 8 entrants that they feel are most likely to be able to pass for human.
Please remember that this is a Turing test and not a chatterbot contest. The object of a Turing test is a binary decision of whether a thing is either human or not human. It is not a beauty pageant, an election process, or an essay contest. The goal is to find the most "human" computer program, which in modern terms is often a combination of an engine and an author. Personality forge beat out such competition as Kurzweil, and other renowned AI companies, so you should all be very proud of that.
And by the way, Congratulations!
Respectfully yours,
Robby.
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