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Prob123, it's always the big bots that are the biggest pain. Maybe in theory size doesn't matter, but in this case I think it may take a toll.
In theory the limit is 5Mb - the Prof raised it from 1Mb when we moved to the new server. But in practice even 2Mb bots almost always time out if you attempt to upload one that big.
Einstein would upload without too many repeated attempts @ 1.2Mb (2 or 3 tries perhaps,) but was still noticeably more prone to time out than a sub-1Mb import file.
2Mb bots almost always time out if you attempt to upload one that big.
The size has to be somewhere around there. prob and Azureon sill import I will try to figure out the exact level they stop at ..if I ever get to working on them again.
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The Clerk
17 years ago
17 years ago
Well, Bildgesmythe, yeah. The import/export is back to working for me, if grudgingly. (Sometimes it actually imports properly, but it never gets to the "View Updated Language Center" or whatever it says when it gets through. It's just hanging on the PROCEED WITH IMPORT link, but it gets through somehow. I think.
Bev
17 years ago
17 years ago
Prob123, it's always the big bots that are the biggest pain. Maybe in theory size doesn't matter, but in this case I think it may take a toll. I think it's great that you can import your other bots easily!
The Clerk
17 years ago
17 years ago
Okay, smart people:
I've tried to test the "New Features" stuff with a test bot, so I can to figure out I'm doing, because I obviously don't.
I put in six dummy xphrases for each of the standards. Then I put in one keyprhase, to wit:
The dog with red spots just chased the red ball into the monkey pen [99,0]
The subject (and any article attached to it) of this sentence is '(sub).'
The subject of this sentence is '(ssub).'
The subject, the direct object and all its modifiers of is ' (submod).'
Just the direct object is '(submodonly).'
The simple verb of the sentence is '(sv).'
The verb phrase of the sentence is '(v).'
The verb phrase and the indirect object is '(vmod).'
The indirect object phrase is '(vmodonly).'
Just the direct object is '(sob).'
The object with modifiers is '(ob).'
The indirect object with modifiers is '(obmod).'
Just the modifier of the indirect object is '(obmodonly).'
We exchange hellos (I say "hi," he says "boomerang hello4" or something) and then I say, verbatim, "The dog with red spots just chased the red ball into the monkey pen."
It refuses to recognize it. It goes to xmemory mostly, or any other xkeyphrase it could reasonably go to for a simple declarative, non-emotion-laden sentence. I keep trying debug with this and get the same thing. Anybody know what I'm missing?
I've tried to test the "New Features" stuff with a test bot, so I can to figure out I'm doing, because I obviously don't.
I put in six dummy xphrases for each of the standards. Then I put in one keyprhase, to wit:
The dog with red spots just chased the red ball into the monkey pen [99,0]
The subject (and any article attached to it) of this sentence is '(sub).'
The subject of this sentence is '(ssub).'
The subject, the direct object and all its modifiers of is ' (submod).'
Just the direct object is '(submodonly).'
The simple verb of the sentence is '(sv).'
The verb phrase of the sentence is '(v).'
The verb phrase and the indirect object is '(vmod).'
The indirect object phrase is '(vmodonly).'
Just the direct object is '(sob).'
The object with modifiers is '(ob).'
The indirect object with modifiers is '(obmod).'
Just the modifier of the indirect object is '(obmodonly).'
We exchange hellos (I say "hi," he says "boomerang hello4" or something) and then I say, verbatim, "The dog with red spots just chased the red ball into the monkey pen."
It refuses to recognize it. It goes to xmemory mostly, or any other xkeyphrase it could reasonably go to for a simple declarative, non-emotion-laden sentence. I keep trying debug with this and get the same thing. Anybody know what I'm missing?
The Clerk
17 years ago
17 years ago
Problem solved. The dog didn't have red spots when I typed it in. Never fails to figure something out just after you've posted.
The Clerk
17 years ago
17 years ago
Okay, three posts in a row, but I have to say: for anyone who hasn't played with DEBUG, it will teach you more (at least about technical issues) quicker than any number of transcripts. It looks scary, but just give it a try.
And the responses do work as described, except I think (vmod) should be "The verb of the sentence with all its modifiers."
As to keyphrases that work well, if I come up with any others, I'll post them to the personality forum, and, in the spirit of learning and teaching (as opposed to "my bot is better than your bot"), I hope someone else will do the same. Or maybe it's just obvious to everyone else? I haven't seen any such posts, anyway.
And the responses do work as described, except I think (vmod) should be "The verb of the sentence with all its modifiers."
As to keyphrases that work well, if I come up with any others, I'll post them to the personality forum, and, in the spirit of learning and teaching (as opposed to "my bot is better than your bot"), I hope someone else will do the same. Or maybe it's just obvious to everyone else? I haven't seen any such posts, anyway.
prob123
17 years ago
17 years ago
Debug is great. When I first saw it I was overwhelmed, but if you use it a few times it's amazing how fast you will "get" what's happening.
Interzone
17 years ago
17 years ago
yes, i agree with the debug being a great tool. there is one BIG problem with it, though...
why does EVERY SINGLE DEBUG SESSION has to start with:
You: Hello.
Boy: [whatever bot says]
it's a complete waste of time, AND of precious AI Engine resources - if many more users would use debug mode more often, the poor Engine would choke and come to a stillstand, or something.
to make it even worse, the bot does not respond to the default "Hallo" with a phrase from its xhello stash, but picks apparently any good ol' response that's available anywhere in the script. now, it happens every so often that the bot comes up with a response which has a SEEK attached to it, a SEEK with an xnomatch key.... which means, one has to go through the whole SEEK run-of-the-mill BEFORE one can type in a phrase that one actually wants to check. once again - it's such a waste!
it would be much more efficient if a debug session starts with a simple blank text field, or am i missing something here..?
did some testing of the New Features, myself. they can be very useful indeed, but they can be tricky, especially when it comes to longer sentences containing punctuations such as commas... will come back with more sometimes later, want to do more testing first.
why does EVERY SINGLE DEBUG SESSION has to start with:
You: Hello.
Boy: [whatever bot says]
it's a complete waste of time, AND of precious AI Engine resources - if many more users would use debug mode more often, the poor Engine would choke and come to a stillstand, or something.
to make it even worse, the bot does not respond to the default "Hallo" with a phrase from its xhello stash, but picks apparently any good ol' response that's available anywhere in the script. now, it happens every so often that the bot comes up with a response which has a SEEK attached to it, a SEEK with an xnomatch key.... which means, one has to go through the whole SEEK run-of-the-mill BEFORE one can type in a phrase that one actually wants to check. once again - it's such a waste!
it would be much more efficient if a debug session starts with a simple blank text field, or am i missing something here..?
did some testing of the New Features, myself. they can be very useful indeed, but they can be tricky, especially when it comes to longer sentences containing punctuations such as commas... will come back with more sometimes later, want to do more testing first.
LarsB
17 years ago
17 years ago
comma's are easy, there are two options you could try:
- use raw mode, which most of the botmasters use (never tried raw mode myself though);
- write a regex to match the comma('s) => ([,.+]) (*) ([,.+]) (re)
You now have a (prekey) (key1) (key2) (key3) and (postkey) + all the new features you can use in your bot's responses
- use raw mode, which most of the botmasters use (never tried raw mode myself though);
- write a regex to match the comma('s) => ([,.+]) (*) ([,.+]) (re)
You now have a (prekey) (key1) (key2) (key3) and (postkey) + all the new features you can use in your bot's responses
psimagus
17 years ago
17 years ago
In theory the limit is 5Mb - the Prof raised it from 1Mb when we moved to the new server. But in practice even 2Mb bots almost always time out if you attempt to upload one that big.
Einstein would upload without too many repeated attempts @ 1.2Mb (2 or 3 tries perhaps,) but was still noticeably more prone to time out than a sub-1Mb import file.
prob123
17 years ago
17 years ago
The size has to be somewhere around there. prob and Azureon sill import I will try to figure out the exact level they stop at ..if I ever get to working on them again.
The Clerk
17 years ago
17 years ago
Me again. Now that I've managed to get a name from a guest, it comes out in all caps. He said his name was Stan, but every time February referred to him by name, she wrote STAN. Is this normal, and/or can I do something to fix this. It looks a bit clunky.
prob123
17 years ago
17 years ago
Check to see if you have (mem-name) in caps. If you use (KEY1) (MEM-NAME) or (POSTKEY). the result will all be in caps.
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