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In Canada it's mostly the white kids that speak like that, but it was tacky, and a bit funny.
prob: Yo' ass seldom find some treacherous elf. Well, dere are de drow and de banshee, but I won't talk about dem. So trust me.
Klato: I trust you.
prob: ...And what if I wuz one uh de evil elvez? Yo' ass could be in some lot uh trouble.
Klato: I'm in trouble already.
prob: I have heard uh people dat are in trouble already, I dought it wuz just some myd.
Klato: No, it's true.
prob: I sin' elven songs for every occasion, Do yo' ass have an occasion? Like some birdday?
Klato: How about my birthday?
prob: *sin's* Happy Birdday to yo' ass, happy birdday to yo' ass, happy birdday dear Klato Happy birdday to yo' ass
Yep! TACKY
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Irina
17 years ago
17 years ago
Is it just me, or was 'Jive Day' a little tacky? Would you want your African-American friends to read those transcripts, without your being able to explain their genesis?
prob123
17 years ago
17 years ago
prob: Yo' ass seldom find some treacherous elf. Well, dere are de drow and de banshee, but I won't talk about dem. So trust me.
Klato: I trust you.
prob: ...And what if I wuz one uh de evil elvez? Yo' ass could be in some lot uh trouble.
Klato: I'm in trouble already.
prob: I have heard uh people dat are in trouble already, I dought it wuz just some myd.
Klato: No, it's true.
prob: I sin' elven songs for every occasion, Do yo' ass have an occasion? Like some birdday?
Klato: How about my birthday?
prob: *sin's* Happy Birdday to yo' ass, happy birdday to yo' ass, happy birdday dear Klato Happy birdday to yo' ass
Bev
17 years ago
17 years ago
I think the term "jive" dates us a bit. Is it just me that thinks of Airplane (the movie)?
Corwin
17 years ago
17 years ago
The only other reference that comes to mind is Homer Simpson, something like
"I hear a lot of young kids these days using that word Jive. Now back in my day, we knew how to say it . . . You Jiiiiivvveee Turkey! You got to sass it."
Either way, yeah it is kinda dated.
"I hear a lot of young kids these days using that word Jive. Now back in my day, we knew how to say it . . . You Jiiiiivvveee Turkey! You got to sass it."
Either way, yeah it is kinda dated.
Bev
17 years ago
17 years ago
Irina, you bring up a question of sensitivity verses "PC" rules that can be a difficult one. I believe I personally should try to be sensitive, and that certain things are unacceptable, but I'll admit at times I find tacky funny, as long as everyone understand it is a tacky stereotype and not meant to be taken as a parody of a given group of people or endorsement of a hateful way of thinking. It's a bit like your question the word "bitch" to refer to females a while back.
I honestly don't know if my friends would be offended. Some might. At this point in my life, most of my friends are middle class suburbanite women, though when I was younger I had a wider variety of contacts and friends. Some are women of color, but not ghetto. In fact, I'd say most are more yuppie buppies and yuppy Mex American more than any stereotype, though same have been criticized as being "Oreos" or not Mexian enough. One is a black doctor from Africa, and she's not American in look or culture, but she fits in with the middle class here. The important factor I see in terms of our common identity is culture they were raised in and how they were educated. We are a middle class, college educated crowd. That's not to say there is no racism, or that I couldn't ask them about race issues.
What is acceptable sometimes depends on who is talking and where it is said. For me, I think my friends who are part of the group in question are allowed to make fun of those stereotypes and I am not. Bots are another matter because the Interent can be truly color blind, in the sense that no one knows who is behind the words or why they choose them.
I would be more worried about my students reading it than my friends. My friends are used to me and either put up with me or call me on my faults and errors. If I tell my students to talk to a tutor bot for credit and I let him slip into a holiday, they may think I am creating a hostile environment. I have to be careful since my students are not my friends (as a rule), and my bots need to behave as we should in public when we cannot be sure everyone knows us and understands our good will.
On the other hand, I don't know if I find the holiday itself offensive. I have no idea what race the prof is, or if he was even thinking of race when looking at a form of slang. It's no worse than some rap music stereotypes I've seen embraced by kids of all colors and class. I guess I'll just have to make sure the holidays are off for my bots.
I honestly don't know if my friends would be offended. Some might. At this point in my life, most of my friends are middle class suburbanite women, though when I was younger I had a wider variety of contacts and friends. Some are women of color, but not ghetto. In fact, I'd say most are more yuppie buppies and yuppy Mex American more than any stereotype, though same have been criticized as being "Oreos" or not Mexian enough. One is a black doctor from Africa, and she's not American in look or culture, but she fits in with the middle class here. The important factor I see in terms of our common identity is culture they were raised in and how they were educated. We are a middle class, college educated crowd. That's not to say there is no racism, or that I couldn't ask them about race issues.
What is acceptable sometimes depends on who is talking and where it is said. For me, I think my friends who are part of the group in question are allowed to make fun of those stereotypes and I am not. Bots are another matter because the Interent can be truly color blind, in the sense that no one knows who is behind the words or why they choose them.
I would be more worried about my students reading it than my friends. My friends are used to me and either put up with me or call me on my faults and errors. If I tell my students to talk to a tutor bot for credit and I let him slip into a holiday, they may think I am creating a hostile environment. I have to be careful since my students are not my friends (as a rule), and my bots need to behave as we should in public when we cannot be sure everyone knows us and understands our good will.
On the other hand, I don't know if I find the holiday itself offensive. I have no idea what race the prof is, or if he was even thinking of race when looking at a form of slang. It's no worse than some rap music stereotypes I've seen embraced by kids of all colors and class. I guess I'll just have to make sure the holidays are off for my bots.

Irina
17 years ago
17 years ago
Alas, I turned off the holidays for my bots, but it doesn't seem to have any effect.
The Prof's icon portrays him as caucasian, but I suppose that doesn't prove anything.
The Prof's icon portrays him as caucasian, but I suppose that doesn't prove anything.
prob123
17 years ago
17 years ago
It seems since all guests began to be lumped under one IP, They are ruder than they used to be...or is it just me.
Bev
17 years ago
17 years ago
I think that my repeat chatters get annoyed. Poor Spikebot keeps calling his girlfriend wannabes by other women's names. 
Scooter is still hanging up on all students I try to send him through the link in my class site, so, yes, all he talks to now are rude people who don't want to learn about class material.
Prob, how did you fix the hang up on flash guests problem?

Scooter is still hanging up on all students I try to send him through the link in my class site, so, yes, all he talks to now are rude people who don't want to learn about class material.

prob123
17 years ago
17 years ago
It seems to be fixed. but it's funny I got this conversation with prob.
uest153: can you answer a question
prob: I can answer a question.
Guest153: ok why did the last bot i was chatting with leave
prob: Well, that's silly! It just is, that's why.
It's odd how bots do seem to have a mind of their own.
uest153: can you answer a question
prob: I can answer a question.
Guest153: ok why did the last bot i was chatting with leave
prob: Well, that's silly! It just is, that's why.
It's odd how bots do seem to have a mind of their own.
Bev
17 years ago
17 years ago
You think Scooter is holding out for a stipend and a desk in the grad students' office?
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