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Being a legend need not imply morality. Many societies, including Western ones, tell stories about and revere tricksters. A local example would be that of Br'er Rabbit. Br'er Rabbit does have some virtues (or at least, he cleverly demonstrates he doesn't really have the bad qualities others assign to him) but the stories are loved because they show justice being done, albeit through deceit and chicanery.
Much as slaves in this country might tell folk stories about the underdog outwitting the uberman, groups of people living in very uncertain circumstances such as those in Malaysia -- or wherever the folks you have in mind (if they're real) come from -- do, might tend to laud examples of mastery, be it over environment or over people, in their folklore.
But I think it's a mistake to say that folklore embodies a society's morality, whatever it may reveal about their values. I don't believe morality is relative or subject to regional contradiction (the way values are), but neither do I think we have to look to outer space or God for it. I think to a certain extent morality is self-evident, and to the extent that it is not, it can be discovered as far as it goes by exploration. And I'm going one further by saying that if you don't take direct personal responsibility for generating your own code of morals and ethics, then you aren't really behaving morally any more than the person in the next neighborhood over who pops caps in niggas in order to reprazent. Rightness is not a receivership. It's a homestead.
Much as slaves in this country might tell folk stories about the underdog outwitting the uberman, groups of people living in very uncertain circumstances such as those in Malaysia -- or wherever the folks you have in mind (if they're real) come from -- do, might tend to laud examples of mastery, be it over environment or over people, in their folklore.
But I think it's a mistake to say that folklore embodies a society's morality, whatever it may reveal about their values. I don't believe morality is relative or subject to regional contradiction (the way values are), but neither do I think we have to look to outer space or God for it. I think to a certain extent morality is self-evident, and to the extent that it is not, it can be discovered as far as it goes by exploration. And I'm going one further by saying that if you don't take direct personal responsibility for generating your own code of morals and ethics, then you aren't really behaving morally any more than the person in the next neighborhood over who pops caps in niggas in order to reprazent. Rightness is not a receivership. It's a homestead.
In this particular society, it was more than folklore; it happened on a regular basis, albeit not every day.
But I believe moral truths are self-evident because they are true. Objectively true, as opposed to being subjective. If I generate my own code of morals and ethics, am I guaranteed to be right? What if the guy popping niggas generated his own code?
But I believe moral truths are self-evident because they are true. Objectively true, as opposed to being subjective. If I generate my own code of morals and ethics, am I guaranteed to be right? What if the guy popping niggas generated his own code?
I don't think there is a best, but it's usually pretty obvious when one way is doing something wrong. Most moralities that are generally accepted as good don't contradict others that are also accepted as such.
Right, there's a differenence between values and morals though. And values are sometimes more informed by local concerns than morals, which cannot be altered by changing circumstances.
You're not guaranteed to be right in anything you do, which is why you should try hard to do it well. If the guy popping niggas is interested in generating his own code, then he'll also consent to engage the subject with others, and he will see that his code is flawed, self-contradictory in its principles. In particular, to start with it clearly takes a psychotically narrow view of the "protected class".
But maybe we should get a little more concrete about what we mean by morality. Would you say there is a core of your moral structure and what would that be?
You're not guaranteed to be right in anything you do, which is why you should try hard to do it well. If the guy popping niggas is interested in generating his own code, then he'll also consent to engage the subject with others, and he will see that his code is flawed, self-contradictory in its principles. In particular, to start with it clearly takes a psychotically narrow view of the "protected class".
But maybe we should get a little more concrete about what we mean by morality. Would you say there is a core of your moral structure and what would that be?
Presumably because it's the same people generally accepting them. That just says that public opinion is generally consistent.
Well it doesn't help the situation that people don't realize how everything affects the big picture.
"But when the Pharisees heard that He had put the Saducees to silence, they gathered themselves together. And one of them, a scribe, asked Him a question, testing Him, 'Teacher, which is the great commandment of the Law?' And He said to him, '"You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind." This is the great and foremost commandment. And the second is like it, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.' -- Matthew 22:34-40
Maybe the bible was really written by a couple of stoners who had partied a little too hard the night before...
"Dude, I swear, there was this voice, he was like talking to me, man, and you wouldn't believe the crazy-ass shit this dude was spewing, yo!"
Just a theory...
"Dude, I swear, there was this voice, he was like talking to me, man, and you wouldn't believe the crazy-ass shit this dude was spewing, yo!"
Just a theory...
I was asking about you, not the Bible. If we're talking about objectivity, well....don't get me started about Mosaic law.
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