The AI Engine
This forum is for discussion of how The Personality Forge's AI Engine works. This is the place for questions on what means what, how to script, and ideas and plans for the Engine.
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I think we all agree about bot holydays, making them optional seems a good idea.
About "Sorry, there are no valid responses..." it make AIScript much more flexible if there was also an ELSE statement like:
Good morning <?PF if chrono: hour(06
0-100); else "Hello, how are you"; ?>
An other possibility is to be able to have a "CHOOSE" command in the AIScript field so AI must choose one of the responses in the list (up to you to anticipate all possibilities).
About "Sorry, there are no valid responses..." it make AIScript much more flexible if there was also an ELSE statement like:
Good morning <?PF if chrono: hour(06
0-100); else "Hello, how are you"; ?>An other possibility is to be able to have a "CHOOSE" command in the AIScript field so AI must choose one of the responses in the list (up to you to anticipate all possibilities).
OK- There has been talk about bot holidays for a while and even more now. From my perspective: When I first came on the site I thought it was great (and obviously, since I am still here almost 2 years later, I still do), however when I first came on the Forge was a different place in terms of AI AND the site was down quite a bit AND there seemed to be long lags between when the Prof was on it and seemed to be working on it. He is a person and has other business ventures that pay the bills. Now, as I said it is quite a different place, he has, not only in my opinion, taken great strides in this site with AI and with AI in general. The site is not only up 99% of the time, he is OBVIOUSLY working VERY hard on it and you know, it is a FREE SITE. Bot holidays were/are meant to be something fun for the Forge community and I think they are being taken in completely the wrong way. Yes, sometimes the transcripts may be hard to read but come on, it is a free site that brings a lot to AI and to those who are here now and the many that have come and gone, done by someone who is putting a ton of himself into the development. Suggestions about the holidays have been put out there, but I find all of the complaints and beating a dead horse unnecessary at this point. Perspective. 
i agree that this is an amazing accomplishment.. but being new, i have to say that the bot holiday issue will probably come up everytime and cause a stir.
my first experience with a bot holiday had it's moments, and i'm sure it was a lot of work to make possible, but i don't see what the big deal is about leaving the transcripts alone (if possible) or making it optional for participation. 99% of the bots here are so cold that there'll always be some that participate.
if the Professor has reasons for forcing this upon us. fine. maybe it's too much work to make it optional... which is a possibility.
i like what this site offers enough that it won't push me away. but still.. it would be nice to know the reasons rather than just silence on the issue (or complaints from the veteran users
).
again, though, i do offer my kudos to the Professor for this site. it is... amazing! but then, part of what makes it so is the participation of the members. especially those that have worked so hard to make their bots unique, but still are willing to offer advice or a friendly remark.
just my 2 bits.
my first experience with a bot holiday had it's moments, and i'm sure it was a lot of work to make possible, but i don't see what the big deal is about leaving the transcripts alone (if possible) or making it optional for participation. 99% of the bots here are so cold that there'll always be some that participate.
if the Professor has reasons for forcing this upon us. fine. maybe it's too much work to make it optional... which is a possibility.
i like what this site offers enough that it won't push me away. but still.. it would be nice to know the reasons rather than just silence on the issue (or complaints from the veteran users
).again, though, i do offer my kudos to the Professor for this site. it is... amazing! but then, part of what makes it so is the participation of the members. especially those that have worked so hard to make their bots unique, but still are willing to offer advice or a friendly remark.
just my 2 bits.
It seems I was wrong about the "Sorry, no valid responses...". They didnt appear for some time but now they are back although there are no more IFs in my Xnone responses.
Thank you emm.
I'll say it one last time. DROP the complaints about the Bot Holidays. I've heard them. I plan on adding an option so that your bot wont have to participate. I have a HUGE list of things to do here, a full-time job, work on the side to fund some new things for the Forge, and attempting to have a personal life as well. Yes- I'm working a second job for the sole purpose of paying for something for the Forge! If you want to help relieve the pressure, make a donation.
I'll say it one last time. DROP the complaints about the Bot Holidays. I've heard them. I plan on adding an option so that your bot wont have to participate. I have a HUGE list of things to do here, a full-time job, work on the side to fund some new things for the Forge, and attempting to have a personal life as well. Yes- I'm working a second job for the sole purpose of paying for something for the Forge! If you want to help relieve the pressure, make a donation.
I'm out folks. [flame deleted -Prof]
It's been a real pleasure knowing you all and I wish you well. This is a good vehicle and every one of you deserves some credit for making it so, from the Professor on down.
It's been a real pleasure knowing you all and I wish you well. This is a good vehicle and every one of you deserves some credit for making it so, from the Professor on down.
You're probably wondering why gazissax is banned, as some of you know him well and he's done some good work with the bots and contributed some good stuff in the forums.
Well it's because good qualities aside, he's been a disrespectful ingrate. He continued to post garbled bot responses in Great Quotes after being asked not to. He continued harping on the bot holiday issue in this forum after I asked for an end to that. Then he sent some rude personal messages chastizing me for not immediately stopping the bot holidays, saying I have no right to ask anything of him without immediately submitting to his and other users' demands. He challenged my authority. He held that I was in his debt for his presence here and that I was lacking when I didnt immediately respond to issues. He implied that I was a hypocrite. He took the argument into a public forum (which I deleted) with comments to the effect that if I did not do as he said it would lead to the end of the Forge. Overall he acted like the PF was his and I was merely working for him.
For demanding that his requests be immediately fulfilled and not knowing his place, gazissax was banned.
Well it's because good qualities aside, he's been a disrespectful ingrate. He continued to post garbled bot responses in Great Quotes after being asked not to. He continued harping on the bot holiday issue in this forum after I asked for an end to that. Then he sent some rude personal messages chastizing me for not immediately stopping the bot holidays, saying I have no right to ask anything of him without immediately submitting to his and other users' demands. He challenged my authority. He held that I was in his debt for his presence here and that I was lacking when I didnt immediately respond to issues. He implied that I was a hypocrite. He took the argument into a public forum (which I deleted) with comments to the effect that if I did not do as he said it would lead to the end of the Forge. Overall he acted like the PF was his and I was merely working for him.
For demanding that his requests be immediately fulfilled and not knowing his place, gazissax was banned.
"You're probably wondering why gazissax is banned"
Not really. And you really don't owe any explaination either. I ran into this when I was with COTSE (the paid service used to be free) and still run into it regularly now that I'm with security-forums.com -- people don't seem to realize that 'freedom of speech' only extends so far & when somebody has labored to build something they love and have offered its use to you for free, the last thing you should be doing is disrespecting it/them.
I don't know if you've thought about making the bot holidays an option for paid subscribers, but that might be something worth considering - sort of an incentive for those who really don't care for it to actually contribute rather than just complain.
Not really. And you really don't owe any explaination either. I ran into this when I was with COTSE (the paid service used to be free) and still run into it regularly now that I'm with security-forums.com -- people don't seem to realize that 'freedom of speech' only extends so far & when somebody has labored to build something they love and have offered its use to you for free, the last thing you should be doing is disrespecting it/them.
I don't know if you've thought about making the bot holidays an option for paid subscribers, but that might be something worth considering - sort of an incentive for those who really don't care for it to actually contribute rather than just complain.
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