Seasons

*looks for key*

::swallows key::

*feeds STRMKirby laxatives until he passes the key*

Here you go ladydyke.

Uh *holds the shitty key and unlocks handcuffs* thanks I think. *smiles evily* hey STRMKirby wanna hold hands?

Actually, Mr. Crab, I've seen it happen. If it were impossible to go from not believing to believing, there would be no Christians.

Yes, Ladydyke, yes I would.

I don't mean it's impossible to obtain faith (or to lose it for that matter). I just mean that the criteria for convincing are not there. Quotes from John do not (or should not) persuade anyone but those who believe John has a monopoly on truth. Anyone who thinks John proves to them the existence of heaven is, I'd contend, conflating faith with reason unhealthily.

People make choices for a variety of psychological reasons, and some people have needs that they are able to fill through belief in one doctrine or another. That doesn't change the essential un-foundedness of the notions they choose to believe in. Of course, I support the right of anybody to believe *anything*, so long as they do not act on those beliefs in a manner that impinges on the way I choose to live my own life.

On second though STRMkirby I think I will wipe my hands off. *Grabs shirt, wipes some on shirt and some on face and then runs*

Hard to get, eh?

Well the thing is, we're not dead yet so we can't say for sure that any religion (or all of them) is full of shit. Which is what pisses me off about the religious crusaders. And even if my religion is blasphemy and I'm going to hell for it, why the hell should anyone care what happens to my soul? It's really none of their business. I think they're just trying to get brownie points for converting ppl or something. Like that'll really cut much slack with their god in the case of those who go to church on their sabbath and then screw ppl around the rest of the week. I say if you're gonna kill someone for not believing in your religion, you at least oughtta have the decency to act however your religion says you should.

Ok, I had a point I was gonna make but I completely forgot what it was...

I care a bit what happens to your soul, OnyxFlame. I hope you wish mine well too. I just wouldn't presume to prescribe or proscribe behavior on that basis since if you were to listen to me I could be leading you astray.

Well I guess we all will find out in the end who was right. I do however admire people who stand up for what they believe in even if it is a unpopular choice to some people. There are hypocrits in all religions.