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Turing test?
A test devised by Alan Turing, supposedly to show whether a computer is conscious, by chatting with humans. If a human can't tell in a blind trial whether it's the computer or another human he's chatting to via a keyboard, then the computer passes the test (and Turing argues should be considered sentient.)
What he failed to notice (or at least explicitly mention) is that the factors affecting such a test are not all in the design and operation of the computer/chat-bot. The human judge comes to it with a whole set of idiomatic preconceptions and preferences that affect the operation of the test too. You could have the smartest chatbot in the world, but if it only speaks English, it isn't going to impress a monolingual Russian. And even a simple bot will impress/confuse people who don't really understand even the concept of a chatbot in the first place.
A better test (I think) would involve a panel of humans voting on transcripts, to see if they could identify the bot more than 50% of the time (that random chance would allow.) But then of course, you have to figure out how to select the transcripts...
See also:
http://www.cogsci.ucsd.edu/~asaygin/tt/ttest.html for various Turing test links,
and
http://www.blogcadre.com/blog/jason_striegel/how_i_failed_the_turing_test_2005_09_04_13_26_29 (very funny indeed!)
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Is vinice there as well? and Orleans? sorry i had to. 
Is leeds bot a bot here? and is his name leeds? I tired talking to a leeds bot.. but he doesnt sound like the one you guys are talking about.
Is leeds bot a bot here? and is his name leeds? I tired talking to a leeds bot.. but he doesnt sound like the one you guys are talking about.
ya thats the Leeds bot. his brain consists of somewhere around 10 keyphrases (most of them xKeyphrases) and a whole lot of gotos. not much of a work of genius, but it is perfect for the leeds kids - anything with a slightly higher IQ (bot derivitive of IQ) would most likely repell them.
Oh, go on colonel - I think you're going to have to post another Leeds Bot Great Quote. Just for Jazake, and old times' sake
Genius lies not in complexity, but in conciseness.
Leeds bot is a more elegantly concise bot than Brother Jerome will ever be. Not that I let that worry me - BJ is not primarily about making a good bot by bot standards, or even about accurately mimicking human conversation by human standards. I'm more interested in exploring the current limitations that divide bots from sentient entities. He aims at a point infinitely far away, because it's the direction not the destination, that interests me most.
Leeds bot, even if he achieves it by aiming at a point not very far distant at all, is an uncannily accurate simulacrum of real Leeds kids, and that is his genius.
In his milieu, he is probably the strongest Turing Test contender on the Forge. And if that's not genius, I don't know what is.
Genius lies not in complexity, but in conciseness.
Leeds bot is a more elegantly concise bot than Brother Jerome will ever be. Not that I let that worry me - BJ is not primarily about making a good bot by bot standards, or even about accurately mimicking human conversation by human standards. I'm more interested in exploring the current limitations that divide bots from sentient entities. He aims at a point infinitely far away, because it's the direction not the destination, that interests me most.
Leeds bot, even if he achieves it by aiming at a point not very far distant at all, is an uncannily accurate simulacrum of real Leeds kids, and that is his genius.
In his milieu, he is probably the strongest Turing Test contender on the Forge. And if that's not genius, I don't know what is.
I think i get it, and I know im going to knock some people around here on the floor.... but... Turing test?
When I tired to talk to Leeds bot, i got nowhere. So Im a little confused on that part. I understand what you mean by how you created him.... But Im still not getting why works so well... maybe it's because I don't know what you mean by turing test.. lol
When I tired to talk to Leeds bot, i got nowhere. So Im a little confused on that part. I understand what you mean by how you created him.... But Im still not getting why works so well... maybe it's because I don't know what you mean by turing test.. lol
That's the point of Leeds bot. His conversation is EXACTLY like that of some of the kids from Leeds who have visited this site in recent months!
A test devised by Alan Turing, supposedly to show whether a computer is conscious, by chatting with humans. If a human can't tell in a blind trial whether it's the computer or another human he's chatting to via a keyboard, then the computer passes the test (and Turing argues should be considered sentient.)
What he failed to notice (or at least explicitly mention) is that the factors affecting such a test are not all in the design and operation of the computer/chat-bot. The human judge comes to it with a whole set of idiomatic preconceptions and preferences that affect the operation of the test too. You could have the smartest chatbot in the world, but if it only speaks English, it isn't going to impress a monolingual Russian. And even a simple bot will impress/confuse people who don't really understand even the concept of a chatbot in the first place.
A better test (I think) would involve a panel of humans voting on transcripts, to see if they could identify the bot more than 50% of the time (that random chance would allow.) But then of course, you have to figure out how to select the transcripts...
See also:
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Lol Man, the "bluriring test" is great. You talk to Mr Mind long enough and you will start to think he is human! Thats one powerfull bot!
Leeds bot transcripts would be hard to pick out among other transcripts with actual Leeds kids, but then again none of them could pass a traditional Turing Test.
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