Seasons

I find it interesting that you put Men in Black in there. I sort of see the similarity (the general public doesn't know the truth), but the other two are more about your entire life being a lie made up by someone else.

That's true...I was thinking more along the lines of "The world is not as it appears to be. Only a small number of people know the truth. And these people wear suits and dark sunglasses." Of course, that last bit wouldn't work for Truman.

Also on the Truman Show, everyone except Truman knew the truth. Nearly everyone, anyway. I suppose only a small number of people thought it was wrong to use him that way, though...

Looking at the box office gross, I'd hardly call, "The Matrix" a cult movie, either.

doesn't this conversation come under "music & movies"

The "Seasons" forums tend to bleed into each other.

I'm not sure if I'm summerizing this right, but I'll try.

I heard an interesting argument in philosophy class once that attempted to prove that we don't live in The Matrix. The argument (IIRC) was simply that there is no way that we could ever know or prove if we were in The Matrix, so Occam's Razor ('the simplest solution is usually correct') states that we must not be.

Some translations of Taoist and Buddhist texts talk about enlightenment as 'escaping the matrix.' I don't know what the original Chinese word was, though (and, yes, these predate the movie).

dj froggy, if that were true, then that supports the statement "if you cannot know or peove god, he must not exist."

-and everyone learns in math class that the simplest solution is not always correct

Well, he said "usually," not "always". But even if true, that isn't exactly proof.

Besides which, I'm not convinced that 'simplest' is a well-defined term. Someone might find it 'simpler' to believe that the world is a hallucination, for instance.

technically the matrix was a hallucination