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Posts 2,132 - 2,143 of 6,170
Posts 2,132 - 2,143 of 6,170
Boner the Clown
21 years ago
21 years ago
If my very rusty German knowledge serves me right, können is a form of the verb "can" (which implies ability) and wollen is some form of "to want".
That would make more sense than wools.
That would make more sense than wools.
lunar22
21 years ago
21 years ago
You're right, I fell smack in the middle of this, and I thought it was a quote from The Hitchhikers Guide, lol
Feyz
21 years ago
21 years ago
I love Babelfish translations. 
Right, Kunst means "art", können is a form of "can" (or with a capital K it means ability/skill) and wollen is "to want". Wunst isn't a real word. It just serves the alliteration.
Wool, lol. ^^

Right, Kunst means "art", können is a form of "can" (or with a capital K it means ability/skill) and wollen is "to want". Wunst isn't a real word. It just serves the alliteration.
Wool, lol. ^^
revscrj
21 years ago
21 years ago
Irina: I agree with what you are saying, and would not that the kind of porn you are refering to is 'craft' not 'art'. 'Craft' in the same vein of definition as tooling out a cookie cutter ikea lamp design by the dozen without thought, whereas erotica is more akin to the hand designed wrought iron lighting fixture that took ages to complete.
Also: yes- it seems that the universe is selfreflective and detailed enough to the point that one can study caligraphy to attain enlightenment, or cryptography to prove chaos theory. Personally i find that both glorious and boggling.
Also: yes- it seems that the universe is selfreflective and detailed enough to the point that one can study caligraphy to attain enlightenment, or cryptography to prove chaos theory. Personally i find that both glorious and boggling.
revscrj
21 years ago
21 years ago
feyz: if an artist is defined by having produced with great skill, then is a learning violinist not an artist? is the expression "bad art" then a misnomer more corectly labeled as something other than art?
Also: I believe all people produce art but only a percentage do so habitualy; meaning: all people make art but not all people are artists.
Also: I believe all people produce art but only a percentage do so habitualy; meaning: all people make art but not all people are artists.
Feyz
21 years ago
21 years ago
I just wrote that art is always connected to a great amount skill somehow IMO (not: art is necessarily something produced with great skill). A learning violinist is gaining more and more skill, slowly mastering what he does. It would be wrong to shelve this necessary process, of course. In fact that's what is most important to me in this discussion.
All people produce art... hmm, that's really something to think about. But it would be even harder to draw a line then between art and not art. And I really like to draw lines.
All people produce art... hmm, that's really something to think about. But it would be even harder to draw a line then between art and not art. And I really like to draw lines.
Irina
21 years ago
21 years ago
Eugene Meltzner:
OK, but suppose I write something in Visual Basic (or Java), how do I get Windows to treat it as a screen saver?
OK, but suppose I write something in Visual Basic (or Java), how do I get Windows to treat it as a screen saver?
Eugene Meltzner
21 years ago
21 years ago
Um, in VB you do something special when you are compiling the program. I can't remember offhand; I haven't done in a while.
Irina
21 years ago
21 years ago
Butterfly dream:
It occurred to me after my first reply to your message 2124 (Sorry, I am a little slow sometimes), that your example was in fact an excellent example for what I was trying to say. In your life drawing class, the fact that the model was gorgeous in a sexual way didn't prevent people from appreciating her hands. In the same way, I hope that erotic art doesn't prevent people from seeing other aspects of people.
It occurred to me after my first reply to your message 2124 (Sorry, I am a little slow sometimes), that your example was in fact an excellent example for what I was trying to say. In your life drawing class, the fact that the model was gorgeous in a sexual way didn't prevent people from appreciating her hands. In the same way, I hope that erotic art doesn't prevent people from seeing other aspects of people.
Irina
21 years ago
21 years ago
revscrj:
Your example of professional wrestling is very good, very thought-provoking. Thank you! I guess I would have to say that if it is carefully choreographed (as I presume it is), and if the aficionados of the art have non-trivial standards, then it is an art.
One should distinguish, though, between three questions:
1. Is it art? (BAD art is still art; the fact that you despise something doesn't prove that it's not art.)
2. Is this particular thing (or performance, etc.) GOOD art?
3. Does this KIND of art (e.g., erotic art, professional wrestling) have the potential to produce masterworks?
As long as professional wrestling is just a sequence of bashings and other forms of competitive torture, I don't see how it can produce great art. But I can imagine ways that it could evolve in that direction.
By the way, is there an intended significance for "revscrj"? Does it mean "reverse screw joint," for example?
Your example of professional wrestling is very good, very thought-provoking. Thank you! I guess I would have to say that if it is carefully choreographed (as I presume it is), and if the aficionados of the art have non-trivial standards, then it is an art.
One should distinguish, though, between three questions:
1. Is it art? (BAD art is still art; the fact that you despise something doesn't prove that it's not art.)
2. Is this particular thing (or performance, etc.) GOOD art?
3. Does this KIND of art (e.g., erotic art, professional wrestling) have the potential to produce masterworks?
As long as professional wrestling is just a sequence of bashings and other forms of competitive torture, I don't see how it can produce great art. But I can imagine ways that it could evolve in that direction.
By the way, is there an intended significance for "revscrj"? Does it mean "reverse screw joint," for example?
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