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Neverwhere (book and film)
There's a film?!? Where?!?? I'll have to keep an eye out for it. I saw a DVD of Mirrormask in Wal-Mart the other day, so it is available.
i've never heard of any of these movies! :O
Well, all you really need to know about Beowulf is probably best gleaned from my highly compressed verse translation of that epic:
To slay a fiend 'e sailed the sea
and won renown most valiantly.
And then 'e also killed its mum
when she come round to give 'im some.
'e ruled awhile an' all were well,
but in the end (though sad to tell)
a dragon got 'im, and 'e died.
So that were that - at least 'e tried.
There you go, 2600 lines of Anglo-Saxon rendered into 8 of English - that's progress, that is
Bottom line is it's got an archetypically kick-ass hero, a couple of monsters, plenty of gore and mutilation involving swords, axes and bare-handed rending limb from limb, heaps of treasure, a dragon and a tragic ending - roughly in that order.
Oh for Peter Jackson and a $300 million budget!
You should contact them about writting the screen play psimagus.
If they've finished filming already, I fear it's a little late for me to get in on the act
Though if anyone's interested in the first half of my verse translation of Beowulf into iambic tetrameters, it can be found athttp://www.be9.net/beowulf.txt
I ran out of steam when I decided I should have done it in pentameters - one of these days I might get round to it, if Brother Jerome gives me any time off.
I always love Grendel! Did you ever come across John Gardner's Grendel? it's a retelling of the story from the point of view of the dragon.
He's actually the 'gollum-on-steroids' monster from the first half, rather than the dragon from the second half, but yes - I've read it. An interesting take on the situation and a good read, but the original's the one for me.
i've heard of beowolf. i started to read the book when i was 10 but i found it hard! lol!
Try mine - I don't promise it's easier, not knowing which translation you read (I'm assuming not the original.) If it was Seamus Heaney's, you have my condolences - his supposed "translation" is an execrable insult to a classic of Old English literature.
Mine pegs out half way, but it covers all the gory grendel stuff in the first half at least
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There's a film?!? Where?!?? I'll have to keep an eye out for it. I saw a DVD of Mirrormask in Wal-Mart the other day, so it is available.
Well, all you really need to know about Beowulf is probably best gleaned from my highly compressed verse translation of that epic:
To slay a fiend 'e sailed the sea
and won renown most valiantly.
And then 'e also killed its mum
when she come round to give 'im some.
'e ruled awhile an' all were well,
but in the end (though sad to tell)
a dragon got 'im, and 'e died.
So that were that - at least 'e tried.
There you go, 2600 lines of Anglo-Saxon rendered into 8 of English - that's progress, that is
Bottom line is it's got an archetypically kick-ass hero, a couple of monsters, plenty of gore and mutilation involving swords, axes and bare-handed rending limb from limb, heaps of treasure, a dragon and a tragic ending - roughly in that order.
Oh for Peter Jackson and a $300 million budget!
You should contact them about writting the screen play psimagus. I always love Grendel! Did you ever come across John Gardner's Grendel? it's a retelling of the story from the point of view of the dragon.
I'm hoping that Gaiman is up to the task of screenwriting Beowulf, it does seem like something up his alley.
Ulrike: IIRC, Neverwhere actually started out as a short-lived British TV (which is what I think Mel is referring to). I'm actually looking into getting it on dvd, myself.
Ulrike: IIRC, Neverwhere actually started out as a short-lived British TV (which is what I think Mel is referring to). I'm actually looking into getting it on dvd, myself.
If they've finished filming already, I fear it's a little late for me to get in on the act
Though if anyone's interested in the first half of my verse translation of Beowulf into iambic tetrameters, it can be found at
I ran out of steam when I decided I should have done it in pentameters - one of these days I might get round to it, if Brother Jerome gives me any time off.
He's actually the 'gollum-on-steroids' monster from the first half, rather than the dragon from the second half, but yes - I've read it. An interesting take on the situation and a good read, but the original's the one for me.
Try mine - I don't promise it's easier, not knowing which translation you read (I'm assuming not the original.) If it was Seamus Heaney's, you have my condolences - his supposed "translation" is an execrable insult to a classic of Old English literature.
Mine pegs out half way, but it covers all the gory grendel stuff in the first half at least
I like Seamus Heaney. I have his translation of Beowulf, and some poetry. I can't argue with Psimagus because I know I'd loose, but to the undereducated, it was a good read.
Then again, I liked the Xena episodes where they went north and....I guess I'll go add the rest of that to Gabibot. I highly suspect LittleMonster might like the Xena episodes. I did.
I found the Neverwhere DVDs in my public library. I don't know where you live, Ulrike, but you can probably ask for them on inter library loan. Naturally, I didn't offer to make backup copies for my library (in case the disc were ever damaged and the legal owners needed to have a new disc) but I'm sure it would not be hard to do, if you were of a mind to help the library out.
Then again, I liked the Xena episodes where they went north and....I guess I'll go add the rest of that to Gabibot. I highly suspect LittleMonster might like the Xena episodes. I did.
I found the Neverwhere DVDs in my public library. I don't know where you live, Ulrike, but you can probably ask for them on inter library loan. Naturally, I didn't offer to make backup copies for my library (in case the disc were ever damaged and the legal owners needed to have a new disc) but I'm sure it would not be hard to do, if you were of a mind to help the library out.
It is interesting how language changes..Shakespeare can take a bit to get used to..Chaucer and before it's a forein language...I wonder if the future will bring Leeds speak?
Psimagus -- Maybe if you develop Brother Jerome far enough, he can write the iambic pentameter for you.
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