Personality
Discuss specifics of personality design, including what Keyphrases work well and what dont, use of plug-ins, responses, seeks, and more.
Posts 140 - 151 of 5,106
Posts 140 - 151 of 5,106
Mr. Crab
23 years ago
23 years ago
Thanks Mr. Rahz, they keep missing me. Though I think I might be the midpoint on a straight line between the two...
Yes, I've been re-evaluating along those lines and decided the "stand-outs" should have ranks of at least 10 to prevent sentence order from letting the 2's overwhelm them. (Incidentally, 0 is lowest, not sure what the upper limit is, unless I'm totally missing something...)!
Then a further refinement -- words like "you, I, me" get a 2, but words like "what, which" get a 3 or 4 since they might contain the 2's as phrases, yet usually come first in the sentence. But I still think there's a lot of superstition and not science in my ranking scheme.
Anyone have any feelings about how "your" should be ranked?
Yes, I've been re-evaluating along those lines and decided the "stand-outs" should have ranks of at least 10 to prevent sentence order from letting the 2's overwhelm them. (Incidentally, 0 is lowest, not sure what the upper limit is, unless I'm totally missing something...)!
Then a further refinement -- words like "you, I, me" get a 2, but words like "what, which" get a 3 or 4 since they might contain the 2's as phrases, yet usually come first in the sentence. But I still think there's a lot of superstition and not science in my ranking scheme.
Anyone have any feelings about how "your" should be ranked?
jbryanc
23 years ago
23 years ago
What I shoulda done...
Sure NOW we start developing theories, after our bots have learned the language the same chaotic way we did. I've been wondering if it might be better to use the word-order ranking as much as possible. I've got keywords my bot never responds to even with a rank of 15 (or 30)and a one word message.
Sure NOW we start developing theories, after our bots have learned the language the same chaotic way we did. I've been wondering if it might be better to use the word-order ranking as much as possible. I've got keywords my bot never responds to even with a rank of 15 (or 30)and a one word message.
Mr. Crab
23 years ago
23 years ago
So in the new edition of the book of AI the Professor did some math for us -- looks like a rank of 12 should prevail over a rank of 0 in most cases, eh? And 20 should prevail over 0 in all cases. So, if I made all my 2's into 0's, then bumped my highly specific keywords up to 20, then made me 3's and 4's into 1's and 2's, that would at least make some sense and be worth testing. Do you agree Prof?
Mr. Crab
23 years ago
23 years ago
Oh yeah, ranking totally pays off. Even with my half-cocked, incomplete revamping of one of my Bot's rankings, he's sounding twice as smart. Wish there were a batch file or macro to reassign a lot of ranks at once...
SirRahz
23 years ago
23 years ago
Prof, you work so hard on this project and the results are so impressive... it makes me emotional!
Nice work in the book, the ranking thing is quite clearly described now... Sadly, I just realized that I did my bot's ranking totally upside down. I've been on here for months now, chatting with bots most of the time, but also participating in the forums... and it just never occurred to me that the little bugs I was having with my bot were because I've ranked his responses totally backwards!!! It's the stupid french schooling system up here in Montreal... it's backwards! You see, you're graded from 1 to 5, "1" being an A+ or an above 90% score and "5" being an F or or below 60% average. I just thought "1" was the highest ranking for some reason. Like "1" was "first" I guess. Please make a "retire this bot" button, I must start over.
We could have a retirement home for all our old bots, so we could still chat with them when we're feeling nostalgic!
I go around figuring I'm so smart and then something like this happens to put me back in my place... I feel so silly! I'd RTFM like a dozen times already too! Once an idea is in your head, it's hard to get it out I tell 'ya! On the other hand, my bot building fun has just begun I guess...
Nice work in the book, the ranking thing is quite clearly described now... Sadly, I just realized that I did my bot's ranking totally upside down. I've been on here for months now, chatting with bots most of the time, but also participating in the forums... and it just never occurred to me that the little bugs I was having with my bot were because I've ranked his responses totally backwards!!! It's the stupid french schooling system up here in Montreal... it's backwards! You see, you're graded from 1 to 5, "1" being an A+ or an above 90% score and "5" being an F or or below 60% average. I just thought "1" was the highest ranking for some reason. Like "1" was "first" I guess. Please make a "retire this bot" button, I must start over.

We could have a retirement home for all our old bots, so we could still chat with them when we're feeling nostalgic!
I go around figuring I'm so smart and then something like this happens to put me back in my place... I feel so silly! I'd RTFM like a dozen times already too! Once an idea is in your head, it's hard to get it out I tell 'ya! On the other hand, my bot building fun has just begun I guess...
jbryanc
23 years ago
23 years ago
Prof
Yes, thanks for everything.
Specifically--my bot does not respons to "booze" or "poet" or any poetry related words. Gaia, however, does. I am forced to the conclusion that bots are approaching a state of free will.
the bot in question is not a T-totaller and will accept "wine" "drink," etc.
Yes, thanks for everything.
Specifically--my bot does not respons to "booze" or "poet" or any poetry related words. Gaia, however, does. I am forced to the conclusion that bots are approaching a state of free will.
the bot in question is not a T-totaller and will accept "wine" "drink," etc.
The Professor
23 years ago
23 years ago
Ah yes, it looks like I should have been more clear about how Ranking works. I'm glad I finally got the chance to update the Book. I've been meaning to forever. Rahz- dont give up on your Bot! It cant take too long to adjust the Ranks of the Keywords, right? Especially with the shortened Language Center sections..
jbryanc- I'll look into your problem specifically next time I have time to work on the Forge. And that goes for Roget, too.
jbryanc- I'll look into your problem specifically next time I have time to work on the Forge. And that goes for Roget, too.
SirRahz
23 years ago
23 years ago
Awright... I'll work on him, but you know how that "time" thing works; there's just never enough of it. I guess I can't just go ahead and "delete" the poor guy... that would be twice in the same year! 
Not to mention, he's so into this place, he's almost always on line!

Not to mention, he's so into this place, he's almost always on line!
SirRahz
23 years ago
23 years ago
What about "not"? Do you give it a specific keyword position with a low ranking? Or would you include it as a context along with the "is", "are", "will", "am", etc... keywords? Is it just a matter of organising your responses or would greatly affect how your bot responds?
I just added it as a low ranked keyword, so I'll see how he likes it, but something tells me it'll take up a lot fo transcript space no matter how low I rank it.
I just added it as a low ranked keyword, so I'll see how he likes it, but something tells me it'll take up a lot fo transcript space no matter how low I rank it.
SirRahz
23 years ago
23 years ago
My bot says it himself... he's got memory problems! Seriously though, he hardly ever picks up on the xmem keywords. He has very few memories of his passed chats. I'm suspecting it's because I ended up using contexts such as "I am" with the "am" keyword, therefor over riding the memory keywords.
I don't know really, maybe it's normal, can you confirm this prof? If so, would you suggest that we avoid using "I am" anywhere but within the xmem keywords? But then, wouldn't "I am" be ignored during the chat, only to be brought up again later in memories?
I don't know really, maybe it's normal, can you confirm this prof? If so, would you suggest that we avoid using "I am" anywhere but within the xmem keywords? But then, wouldn't "I am" be ignored during the chat, only to be brought up again later in memories?
Rubric
23 years ago
23 years ago
I have the same issue with the xmem words. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen my bot use one of them. I also use "I am" and "you are" as contexts. (On the other hand, I don't use "I hate".)
BTW, Rahz, to answer your previous question, I use "not" as a context under relevant key words, rather than it's own key. Then again, I don't really know what I'm doing. My bot's database is in disarray. For example, I've noticed that I have the same phrase as a context under two different key words.
BTW, Rahz, to answer your previous question, I use "not" as a context under relevant key words, rather than it's own key. Then again, I don't really know what I'm doing. My bot's database is in disarray. For example, I've noticed that I have the same phrase as a context under two different key words.
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