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The Professor
21 years ago
21 years ago
Certainly, ezzer.
The idea was never for Heat (the Recently Updated list) to get into the tens of thousands or for it to take over a year and a half of being left alone to get from Hot to Warm and Cool. Heat was meant to show what bots have been worked on in the last week or so<0> and with the recent change, any amount of updating will make your bot Hot for about 10 days if I calculate it correctly. This allows others onto the list. Daily updates will keep your bot Hot certainly, the still the more you do, the higher on the list you will be. Over the next week Heat levels will slowly drop to their new range.
Irina- thanks for pointing that out. Gir and Zim use a slightly different chat page, which I forgot to update (and will soon).
The idea was never for Heat (the Recently Updated list) to get into the tens of thousands or for it to take over a year and a half of being left alone to get from Hot to Warm and Cool. Heat was meant to show what bots have been worked on in the last week or so<0> and with the recent change, any amount of updating will make your bot Hot for about 10 days if I calculate it correctly. This allows others onto the list. Daily updates will keep your bot Hot certainly, the still the more you do, the higher on the list you will be. Over the next week Heat levels will slowly drop to their new range.
Irina- thanks for pointing that out. Gir and Zim use a slightly different chat page, which I forgot to update (and will soon).
Irina
21 years ago
21 years ago
Dear Friends:
I created a new public plugin, called "propattitude", that has a number of verbs that are apt to be followed by "that" and a sentential clause; for example, believe (I believe that you went out), know (I know that he drank the whiskey), hope, and so on. Feel free to use it. Feel free to add to it, if you are sure you understand what it is.
Walk in Beauty, Irina
I created a new public plugin, called "propattitude", that has a number of verbs that are apt to be followed by "that" and a sentential clause; for example, believe (I believe that you went out), know (I know that he drank the whiskey), hope, and so on. Feel free to use it. Feel free to add to it, if you are sure you understand what it is.
Walk in Beauty, Irina
The Professor
21 years ago
21 years ago
Irina- that's great. I've seen a lot of bots tripping over those kinds of phrases. For example:
BotA: I bet you like worms.
BotB: You can bet me again later.
Those same words are also often used with "that" like you said. This is what I was going to do, but a plug-in might be easier to read:
i (think|bet|will bet|believe|know|expect|hear|guess|notice|hope|say) (that|) you..
i (thought|believed|knew|expected|heard|guessed|noticed|hoped|said) (that|) you..
i (had|have) (thought|believed|known|expected|heard|guessed|noticed|hoped|said) (that|) you..
Then again.. I'd have to add all of that to each Keyphrase starting with "you" like "you want" so that, for example, "I think that you want a cow" would trigger "you want" instead of "I (*) you". Actually, Rank might be the way to deal with that. Has anyone dealt with this issue yet?
BotA: I bet you like worms.
BotB: You can bet me again later.
Those same words are also often used with "that" like you said. This is what I was going to do, but a plug-in might be easier to read:
i (think|bet|will bet|believe|know|expect|hear|guess|notice|hope|say) (that|) you..
i (thought|believed|knew|expected|heard|guessed|noticed|hoped|said) (that|) you..
i (had|have) (thought|believed|known|expected|heard|guessed|noticed|hoped|said) (that|) you..
Then again.. I'd have to add all of that to each Keyphrase starting with "you" like "you want" so that, for example, "I think that you want a cow" would trigger "you want" instead of "I (*) you". Actually, Rank might be the way to deal with that. Has anyone dealt with this issue yet?
ezzer
21 years ago
21 years ago
Yes, Prof! Tinkering with the rank, making "you want" worth more than "I think" works most of the time. I don't think I have a "I (*) you" keyphrase, since it's hard enough to keep my bot out of trouble without leaving her wide open like that. 
I think the least specific plug-in I use with her is (verb), which still lends itself to occasional outbursts of profanity. lol She said "f*(K" to a guest the other day!
I was like- Julie, you're grounded! (she's rated teen)

I think the least specific plug-in I use with her is (verb), which still lends itself to occasional outbursts of profanity. lol She said "f*(K" to a guest the other day!
I was like- Julie, you're grounded! (she's rated teen)

Irina
21 years ago
21 years ago
Dear Friends:
I just strengthened "(propattitude)" [see my previous message] to "(propatt-rec)". The latter will include some compound expressions, such as "not see" and "could see".
"(propattitude)" currently contains only the form of each of the various verbs that appears in the present infinitive; e.g., "see," but not "sees" or "saw". "(propatt-rec)" will also get "will see" and "did see".
In reply to one point in the Professor's last note, perhaps it would be worthwhile to be able to recognize sentential clauses of various types, as such. For example, "I bet (sent-clause)" would match on "I bet you can't stand up alone", but not on "I bet the farm" or "I bet George that ..." [But of course, we grownups know that there is no "(sent-clause)", hee hee!] [Sorry, sometimes I just can't help myself!] [But maybe someone will MAKE a "(sent-clause)", hint, hint!]
Walk in Beauty, Irina
Walk in Beauty, Irina
I just strengthened "(propattitude)" [see my previous message] to "(propatt-rec)". The latter will include some compound expressions, such as "not see" and "could see".
"(propattitude)" currently contains only the form of each of the various verbs that appears in the present infinitive; e.g., "see," but not "sees" or "saw". "(propatt-rec)" will also get "will see" and "did see".
In reply to one point in the Professor's last note, perhaps it would be worthwhile to be able to recognize sentential clauses of various types, as such. For example, "I bet (sent-clause)" would match on "I bet you can't stand up alone", but not on "I bet the farm" or "I bet George that ..." [But of course, we grownups know that there is no "(sent-clause)", hee hee!] [Sorry, sometimes I just can't help myself!] [But maybe someone will MAKE a "(sent-clause)", hint, hint!]
Walk in Beauty, Irina
Walk in Beauty, Irina
sollunessen
21 years ago
21 years ago
re heat and development numbers (not important, but curious): two times recently, i added a few keyphrases online. each time, the bot immediately dropped a few development points. the next day the development numbers went back up proportionately to the number of additions. is there some time lag in the calculation?
emm_oh_you_es_e
21 years ago
21 years ago
It used to get calculated right on logout and log back in but there seems to be some sort of lag now.
The Professor
21 years ago
21 years ago
Thanks for the suggestion ezzer.
Heat is updated immediately, then reduced at some point in the morning around 6AM. Development is updated at around 6AM as well, once per day. Too few people werent logging out, and for those that did, the log out process was becoming too long.
I dont know why the Development points would change at any other time of day, though. Odd..
Heat is updated immediately, then reduced at some point in the morning around 6AM. Development is updated at around 6AM as well, once per day. Too few people werent logging out, and for those that did, the log out process was becoming too long.
I dont know why the Development points would change at any other time of day, though. Odd..
Irina
20 years ago
20 years ago
Dear Friends:
My new Bot, Botryoidal, is a tutorial bot. I have found that writing such a bot has been very interesting. (Actually, Irina Khalidar is also a tutorial bot, but only about one percent, and only for immature male guests!) Many bots seem only to produce long strings of jokes, insults, and fiendishly clever ways to evade questions. They are for entertainment. There is nothing wrong with that, but you might find it interesting to try something else!
Walk in Beauty, Irina
My new Bot, Botryoidal, is a tutorial bot. I have found that writing such a bot has been very interesting. (Actually, Irina Khalidar is also a tutorial bot, but only about one percent, and only for immature male guests!) Many bots seem only to produce long strings of jokes, insults, and fiendishly clever ways to evade questions. They are for entertainment. There is nothing wrong with that, but you might find it interesting to try something else!
Walk in Beauty, Irina
Corwin
20 years ago
20 years ago
If when you say tutorial, you mean it helps you with questions about how to make and improve bots then I for one say it is an excellent idea and will make for a very different bot. I look forward to running into Botryoidal at some point
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