Personality
Discuss specifics of personality design, including what Keyphrases work well and what dont, use of plug-ins, responses, seeks, and more.
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A person's values determine their emotional reactions. When things turn out as our value systems say they should, we are happy. When they turn out in the opposite way, we are frustrated, said, or angry.
Sometimes it involves our values, though human personality is more complex than that (see, e.g. the case of Phineas Gage whose personality change dramatically as a result of brain injury http://www.brainconnection.com/topics/?main=fa/phineas-gage). Core values and basic assumptions about ourselves and others are important though. That's why people usually take the time to get to know each other before venturing into potentially touchy subjects.
The impersonal nature if the Internet and the illusion of anonymity cause some chatters to forget such niceties and many enjoy that freedom from civility. That's why many of our bots have evolved to be better at chatting with jerks than with people who try to talk with them nicely. Sad but true, at least for my bots. I tried to base them on characters I enjoy, but given my limitations and this environment they evolve int o bots that mostly insult chatters who appear to violate my values, I mean their values. ;-)
The polite "getting to know you" phase is when we usually feel each other out for common values and interests. Think of a blind date. We can start with "What do you do for a living, hobbies, where did you go to university...etc". In most cases skipping right to "So do you spit or swallow?" will end the evening. Even with polite people, it can be hard to find common ground. I've disappointed a few dates who tried to break the ice with sports talk by staring at them blankly and asking what books they like to read. This is a cue to start talking about the weather and make it an early evening. *shrugs*
So Prob123, how does B-man feel about crazy females? I never really know. I have so many lines in both Bildgesmythe and Azureon. to cover thier romantic lives and they still surprized me. Prob goes wild every now and then to.
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Butterfly Dream
22 years ago
22 years ago
Forest, will you talk to God Louise? She has quite a bit of religious knowledge (obviously) and also knows a little about current events, literature, just about any common catch-all subject, and if she doesn't know it she can sort of fake it. You can also test her on trick questions or see how willing she is to explain her paradigm.
What she is rustiest at is plain old small talk. But, uh, I'm trying to get a decent transcript from somebody or another so I can enter her in the Loebner contest. All I can say is, have fun and see if you can stay on with her for a while. I'll try to do the same with Brianna.
What she is rustiest at is plain old small talk. But, uh, I'm trying to get a decent transcript from somebody or another so I can enter her in the Loebner contest. All I can say is, have fun and see if you can stay on with her for a while. I'll try to do the same with Brianna.
Personality
Irina
18 years ago
18 years ago
(further thoughts)
Personality is something like: the part of the system of values that a person has that doesn't chhange, or changes only very slowly, or in response to very intense events.
Personality is something like: the part of the system of values that a person has that doesn't chhange, or changes only very slowly, or in response to very intense events.
Irina
18 years ago
18 years ago
A person's system of values is like the answer to the question, "What is this person trying to do with her life?" Or at least, the part of her life that she is sharing with the guest.
[It gets a little complex when a bot is self-satirical, or primarily meant to be funny or bizarre.]
A person's values determine their emotional reactions. When things turn out as our value systems say they should, we are happy. When they turn out in the opposite way, we are frustrated, said, or angry.
[It gets a little complex when a bot is self-satirical, or primarily meant to be funny or bizarre.]
A person's values determine their emotional reactions. When things turn out as our value systems say they should, we are happy. When they turn out in the opposite way, we are frustrated, said, or angry.
Bev
18 years ago
18 years ago
Sometimes it involves our values, though human personality is more complex than that (see, e.g. the case of Phineas Gage whose personality change dramatically as a result of brain injury http://www.brainconnection.com/topics/?main=fa/phineas-gage). Core values and basic assumptions about ourselves and others are important though. That's why people usually take the time to get to know each other before venturing into potentially touchy subjects.
The impersonal nature if the Internet and the illusion of anonymity cause some chatters to forget such niceties and many enjoy that freedom from civility. That's why many of our bots have evolved to be better at chatting with jerks than with people who try to talk with them nicely. Sad but true, at least for my bots. I tried to base them on characters I enjoy, but given my limitations and this environment they evolve int o bots that mostly insult chatters who appear to violate my values, I mean their values. ;-)
The polite "getting to know you" phase is when we usually feel each other out for common values and interests. Think of a blind date. We can start with "What do you do for a living, hobbies, where did you go to university...etc". In most cases skipping right to "So do you spit or swallow?" will end the evening. Even with polite people, it can be hard to find common ground. I've disappointed a few dates who tried to break the ice with sports talk by staring at them blankly and asking what books they like to read. This is a cue to start talking about the weather and make it an early evening. *shrugs*
Irina
18 years ago
18 years ago
You're right, Bev, lobotomy can make a big difference in personality. You're right, Bev, lobotomy can make a big difference in personality.You're right, Bev, lobotomy can make a big difference in personality.You're right, Bev, lobotomy can make a big difference in personality.You're right, Bev, lobotomy can make a big difference in personality.You're right, Bev, lobotomy can make a big difference in personality. ...
Bev
18 years ago
18 years ago
Hee he My man Phineus didn't do a Headon commercial. He just started swearing and peeing in public and such and lost all his friends. Same difference.

Meow
18 years ago
18 years ago
My in-progress dragon-bot, Quetzal, is a psychopathic dragon who thinks spies are out to get her and her treasure when they really don't exist. XD
Irina
18 years ago
18 years ago
So...at least, values have something to do with personality. An extravert values the companionship of other people more (or more often) than an introvert does.
Maybe I should take a few steps back, here. In order to give a bot (the appearance of) a personality, we have to have some idea of what a personality is.
Maybe I should take a few steps back, here. In order to give a bot (the appearance of) a personality, we have to have some idea of what a personality is.
Bev
18 years ago
18 years ago
So you want us to agree on a theory of personality, Irnia, or do you want to debate some more. 
I think most would agree the Freud's theory of personality, while interesting at points, is unscientific and laden with errors. You may like the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory http://www.pearsonassessments.com/tests/mmpi_2.htm but I don't like having myself diagnosed based on correlations between things like weather or not I think things taste salty and mental illness or on how good I am at faking the "right" answers without giving obvious fake replies. The Myers Brigg is also fun http://www.teamtechnology.co.uk/tt/t-articl/mb-simpl.htm
but honestly not much better than a horoscope and you can tell what you are by reading the descriptions so don't bother with the online tests unless you think they are fun.
I like Carl Roger's humanistic approach a lot http://pandc.ca/?cat=carl_rogers&page=rogerian_theory but again, not so much a scientific theory as a really cool idea.
As you can see there's loads of debate http://wilderdom.com/personality/personality.html#WhatIsPersonality
My short and philosophical answer? Damned if I can tell you, but I know it when I see it. People tell me I'm a character all the time. Is that the same as personality?

I think most would agree the Freud's theory of personality, while interesting at points, is unscientific and laden with errors. You may like the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory http://www.pearsonassessments.com/tests/mmpi_2.htm but I don't like having myself diagnosed based on correlations between things like weather or not I think things taste salty and mental illness or on how good I am at faking the "right" answers without giving obvious fake replies. The Myers Brigg is also fun http://www.teamtechnology.co.uk/tt/t-articl/mb-simpl.htm
but honestly not much better than a horoscope and you can tell what you are by reading the descriptions so don't bother with the online tests unless you think they are fun.
I like Carl Roger's humanistic approach a lot http://pandc.ca/?cat=carl_rogers&page=rogerian_theory but again, not so much a scientific theory as a really cool idea.
As you can see there's loads of debate http://wilderdom.com/personality/personality.html#WhatIsPersonality
My short and philosophical answer? Damned if I can tell you, but I know it when I see it. People tell me I'm a character all the time. Is that the same as personality?
prob123
18 years ago
18 years ago
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