Personality

Discuss specifics of personality design, including what Keyphrases work well and what dont, use of plug-ins, responses, seeks, and more.

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21 years ago #2398
Argh! Sorry if I'm bombarding you guys all at once. I run into one problem, try to work on something else while the first problem percolates, then invariably dead-end at another problem, over and over, until my brain looks like a rush-hour commute. The gotos not working is still the one I'm really most concerned with, but...

I can't for the life of me get how to use the plugins that pull from the previous parts of the conversation. It makes perfect sense when I read about it, but in practice I can never get it to work. Case in point:

Bedawyn: Knock knock
MyBot: Who's there?
Bedawyn: Smudge
MyBot: (key) who?
Bedawyn: Let's try this again. Knock knock!
MyBot: *long-suffering sigh* Who's there?
Bedawyn: Smudge
MyBot: (key1) who?
Bedawyn: Okay, one more time. Knock knock!
MyBot: *long-suffering sigh* Who's there?
Bedawyn: Smudge
MyBot: (firstkey) who?
Bedawyn: *sigh* Knock knock!
MyBot: *long-suffering sigh* Who's there?
Bedawyn: Smudge
MyBot: (firstkey1) who?
Bedawyn: Yet again... Knock knock!
MyBot: *long-suffering sigh* Who's there?
Bedawyn: still smudge
MyBot: who?
Bedawyn: Well, that's a little better, if not right.
MyBot: No? Why not?

I wish I knew! What am I doing wrong? That last time I was using (*), which I didn't really expect to work anyway. Is the 1 necessary all the time, or only if there's a (key2) also present? I've got two contradictory explanations for (key) in my head -- one says (key) is the keyphrase itself (to go with the pre- and postkey), the other says (key) is a wildcard value within the keyphrase. Which is correct?

*brain hurts*

21 years ago #2399
You need "(key1) who", Bedawn, (key1) referring to the seek, if you're doing it like I did. I have:

Keyphrase: knock-knock

with Seek: (verb), (adjartnounprep), (*), (name), (noun), (person), (object), (substance)

followed with Response: (key1) who?

I'm not saying that's the cleanest or best way, but it's the way I arrived at through trial and error that actually worked.


21 years ago #2400
But "(key1) who?" didn't work for me, only echoed that back without filling it in. I'm using xnomatch as the seek -- it wouldn't let me use (*). I didn't try combining (*) with anything else, though.

21 years ago #2401
Exactly right- that's what happened to me...I don't remember what happened when I did xnomatch..in fact, i think i may have a 'goto' under my xnomatch seek to redirect it to the other seek...and i had to put the
,(*), in the middle of other nonwildcard keywords, or it wouldn't take...fun fun!! I see you're well on your way to becoming a Forge addict!

21 years ago #2402
Addict? Nah, that's just how I work... totally drown myself in something, 22 hours a day, for a week, then try to wean myself off while I catch up on the abandoned Real Life, get distracted with something else, drown myself in it and forget all about the first project... I was horrified when I saw an old post about the possibility of deleting bots whose owners hadn't been around for 3 months. It's been about a year since the last time I worked on my bots, but that doesn't mean I won't put as many hours in within a week as someone else might in 3 months. I just won't do it consistently!

I'm about ready to give up on the gotos, but my latest frustration is the favorites. I was finally able to override the kind/specifics with a keyphrase for things that are possessed rather than liked, but can't find anything that will override it for liked kinds. Is there a workaround for this, or are we just doomed to a randomiser rather than a consistent personality? I've already changed the xfavorite responses to avoid the nonsensical specifics, but I'd like to use normal keyphrases to answer so I could actually introduce topics she can talk about.

21 years ago #2403
I'm right there with you, Bedawyn..as far as workarounds that override x-responses, I just make as many keyphrases I can for my bot's particular interesets, and rank them really high.

21 years ago #2404
My only problem is with Guests who want to link in to talk with Polaris. They seem to only get a few lines into the conversation and then very rapidly get bumped with 'the bot no longer wishes to speak with you' line.

21 years ago #2405
Athyrius:

You need to create more keyphrases so that the bot won't get "frustrated". Duo's chats are *mostly* with guests.

In the past, I used to get that "the bot no longer wishes to speak with you' line quite often. It hasn't happened in well over a year, though.

21 years ago #2406
Holy Crap! Duo is over a year old?! No wonder he's so smart!

21 years ago #2407
Yeah, Duo turned 1 back in February. But his development was on "hiatus" for several months last fall.

Julie's doing quite well for only being a few months old!

21 years ago #2408
Thanks! She turned 2 months old on Friday!

21 years ago #2409
Wow! in comparison, steve's ancient! He better smarten up then. argh, what a slacker!


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