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This is a forum for newcomers to the Personality Forge. Many questions can be answered by reading the Book of AI and the FAQ under the "My Bots" link in the upper corner.
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Many questions are answered in the FAQ.
Algus
19 years ago
19 years ago
Well, its not as if Im impatient. I mean I know Ive got a lot of work to do, I just thought it was a little crazy that his development rating is 0 but he's just under Azureon on the most improved list.
Ive only been here a day after all, so obviously my guy is very primitive and Im trying to learn as much as I can (Ive already practiced with some seeks and so forth) Maybe I should have asked how it determines the 'most improved' list so I wouldnt be boggling at why Im listed with a bunch of much more developed bots.
Ive only been here a day after all, so obviously my guy is very primitive and Im trying to learn as much as I can (Ive already practiced with some seeks and so forth) Maybe I should have asked how it determines the 'most improved' list so I wouldnt be boggling at why Im listed with a bunch of much more developed bots.
lunar22
19 years ago
19 years ago
That's because it's comparing the work you've put in with other botmasters during one day, and there you "scored"...
Algus
19 years ago
19 years ago
I see. Thanks. Sorry for asking dumb questions, but I didnt see any explanations in the FAQs. I appreciate the help.
psimagus
19 years ago
19 years ago
The Development points are only updated once daily (about 11.30AM UK time), at the same time as the Improvement points are readjusted downwards. But the Improvement points are immediately increased each time you add to the language centre. So it's worth logging on at noon to see where your bot stands.
prob123
19 years ago
19 years ago
It also helps if you put at least 6 responses for each keyphrase. If you have only one response it can actually reduce dev. points.
Algus
19 years ago
19 years ago
Yes, I see, that cleared it up. I thought surely I would have at least one or two points but now that I've logged in this afternoon I can see I've actually left newborn stage. Thanks for the info about additional responses prob, it'll give me something to tinker with this afternoon.
psimagus
19 years ago
19 years ago
Ow! 6 per keyphrase?!? Actually that explains a lot.
I've noticed something else weird though - some of my early xnones (just placeholders really from the first couple of days) carried on appearing in conversation for a day or so after I'd entirely deleted them from Brother Jerome's repertoire. I even imported, searched and checked, and exported. And they still kept appearing. Weird!
And I can't get memories to store properly at all (I've read and reread and rereread the Book of AI, but I must be missing something probably really damn obvious!), but I'll throw an example into the ring and ask advice when I've more time (and sobriety!) I can't ATM even quite phrase the question I need to ask, yet alone understand the answer!
I've noticed something else weird though - some of my early xnones (just placeholders really from the first couple of days) carried on appearing in conversation for a day or so after I'd entirely deleted them from Brother Jerome's repertoire. I even imported, searched and checked, and exported. And they still kept appearing. Weird!
And I can't get memories to store properly at all (I've read and reread and rereread the Book of AI, but I must be missing something probably really damn obvious!), but I'll throw an example into the ring and ask advice when I've more time (and sobriety!) I can't ATM even quite phrase the question I need to ask, yet alone understand the answer!
prob123
19 years ago
19 years ago
psimagus, I never noticed any xnones hanging over. that is weird. On the memories THE MISTAKE I made was not putting mem- in front Like (mem-self-mem)and (mem-youare) I was just putting (youare) etc...Don't know if that will help. I try to go thru the inner life every day and straighten out the language, tenses etc. I still get lots of weird stuff

psimagus
19 years ago
19 years ago
yeah, I'm putting the "mem-" in in responses, and BJ can recall memories perfectly. But only memories I've set as defaults in the Initialization box in his settings, and he can't seem to change them. So everyone he meets is a Christian who owns a green car, because the "<?PF remember (postkey) as "youhave"; ?>" just doesn't seem to do anything. The responses get triggered, answers are given, but when I go to BJ's Inner Life section, there are no entries apart from
"yourreligion: a Christian
youhave: a green car"
for conversants who chatted with him a couple of days ago when I had those defaults set (I've deleted them now - they just became annoying, but they still show up now as defaults for bots he chatted with then.)
I'll just have to keep tinkering with it, and try not to rip out too much more hair while I'm doing it!
"yourreligion: a Christian
youhave: a green car"
for conversants who chatted with him a couple of days ago when I had those defaults set (I've deleted them now - they just became annoying, but they still show up now as defaults for bots he chatted with then.)
I'll just have to keep tinkering with it, and try not to rip out too much more hair while I'm doing it!
Ulrike
19 years ago
19 years ago
Try putting quotes around "(postkey)". Sometimes the AI-Engine is picky about stuff like that.
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