Bot Contest
Here I'll be posting information on various Bot contests that challenge and test a Bot's AI and realism. Feel free to post comments and updates on contests, as well as announcements for new contests.
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I don't think they talked to the bots I think they just like to 'biach'.
That sums it up right there.
I don't think slashdot was the best place to submit the cbc...they're only concerned with 'true ai' and all that. It would be better on Bored.com or something like that.
And how do you end a color?
you have to go back and but the other color in pointy brackets
I found this post from slashdot offensive. I highlight the good parts.
Sorry, but this contest is a total joke. It's even less worthy of consideration than the Loebner Prize Contest, which degenerated from a promising start into a meaningless attempt at self-promotion by a disco floor manufacturer who gets excited by seeing his face on a medal, and the mentally unstable people who enjoy wearing the same. The people who run both of these contests are totally unqualified in the field of AI, as are virtually all of the contestants. From hobby kids who just found out about IRC bots yesterday, to Richard Wallace's fake "ai foundation", this field is full of aimless losers. These guys (and they are mostly guys, and dysfunctional ones at that) just keep recycling the same 35 year old Eliza ideas over and over again, not knowing enough to understand how completely *not* new any of it is.
None of them have even managed to standardize any of their efforts, pool their talents to avoid reinventing the wheel, maybe have some kind of baseline to build on top of to do something new. There's just this confused mess of hype, hokum and ignorance. Every "bot" sounds the same -- either like Alice (which just sounds like Eliza++), or like some East European nerd on LSD.
Unfortunately there's nobody in between these totally unserious clowns, and the real AI researchers, who are trying to actually figure out how the brain works, instead of rediscovering parlor tricks for the 200th time.
These morons with their contests and foundations and whatnot are just trying, in their feeble ways, to make names for themselves. They are bottom feeders, fighting over the last remaining scraps of the old AI project that took off in other directions a long time ago.
I gave two replys..I think this one deserves more..
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Jake11611
19 years ago
19 years ago
I just read that, and I noticed they didn't even talk to the more advanced bots (Brother Jerome, as an example) And then there was the idiot who expected to get a coherent convorsation out of a cyber-bot...
alc003
19 years ago
19 years ago
That sums it up right there.
I don't think slashdot was the best place to submit the cbc...they're only concerned with 'true ai' and all that. It would be better on Bored.com or something like that.
prob123
19 years ago
19 years ago
alc003
19 years ago
19 years ago
This was a good post:
Did you talk with Brother Jerome? He is not my bot and I don't have one in the contest, but he is very good and can do most of what you said. I know for a fact that he and all the personalityforge bots can do math. The thing is, they weren't made to answer trivia questions. If you asked me to do math or geography in a normal conversation, I'd think up a reason not to answer you, and leave. The bots mimic humans, not calculators.
Did you talk with Brother Jerome? He is not my bot and I don't have one in the contest, but he is very good and can do most of what you said. I know for a fact that he and all the personalityforge bots can do math. The thing is, they weren't made to answer trivia questions. If you asked me to do math or geography in a normal conversation, I'd think up a reason not to answer you, and leave. The bots mimic humans, not calculators.
Bev
19 years ago
19 years ago
TY Alc (I made 2 of the anonymous coward posts). Although many slash-dotters who posted are interested in being "geekier than thou" or complaining, I think it was worth putting the original story there.
First, bad or good, it strirred up a conversation. As long as botmasters answered, casual readers may have checked the contest out. Also we were able to teach at least 1 person the difference bt a PF bot and the bots you see on AIM.
A few posters seemed like jerks, but they are probably that way in every post. We are spoiled here. We get only a few trolls, and I've never seen a true flame war. Many more mainstream sites have lots of people who like to...er, complain and fight. *shrugs*
Someone could also hit bored.com. More posts about the CBC means more chatters for your bots.
First, bad or good, it strirred up a conversation. As long as botmasters answered, casual readers may have checked the contest out. Also we were able to teach at least 1 person the difference bt a PF bot and the bots you see on AIM.
A few posters seemed like jerks, but they are probably that way in every post. We are spoiled here. We get only a few trolls, and I've never seen a true flame war. Many more mainstream sites have lots of people who like to...er, complain and fight. *shrugs*
Someone could also hit bored.com. More posts about the CBC means more chatters for your bots.
prob123
19 years ago
19 years ago
Ok, I posted at slash dot..I got one response back, that they only talked to a "few" bots ..ya da ya da..I also told them to talk to Brother Jerome, Julie Tinkerbell, Aries, Rhyxx1 and posted a transcript of Bildgesmythe answering the what is five + three question, that they said bots couldn't answer..Nerds or no they talk through their ..er hats.. Go there, and tell it like it is.
I also contacted bored .com..they have a suggestion board, and the more suggestions the merrier.
Oh, right after I got a lot of guest chats all asking math questions that are beyond me..
I also contacted bored .com..they have a suggestion board, and the more suggestions the merrier.
Bev
19 years ago
19 years ago
I saw your posts. You took the time to tell them your SN. You did a good job of explaining things. If they all can't read, that is their issue.
You know I less than 3 nerds, and in some ways I am very geeky, but I do think the aggressive "prove your geek-credibility" types were picked on by bullies when they were kids or something. It's like people who hear you like Star Trek and then won't talk to you again if you don't know every episode by number...etc. If all your pride lies in a relatively narrow field of knowledge, then maybe you need to point out the shortcomings of anyone who enters your territory so you can feel superior. Not all of the chatters are like that. Besides, at least they don't want to insult or seduce the bot.
You know I less than 3 nerds, and in some ways I am very geeky, but I do think the aggressive "prove your geek-credibility" types were picked on by bullies when they were kids or something. It's like people who hear you like Star Trek and then won't talk to you again if you don't know every episode by number...etc. If all your pride lies in a relatively narrow field of knowledge, then maybe you need to point out the shortcomings of anyone who enters your territory so you can feel superior. Not all of the chatters are like that. Besides, at least they don't want to insult or seduce the bot.
prob123
19 years ago
19 years ago
None of them have even managed to standardize any of their efforts, pool their talents to avoid reinventing the wheel, maybe have some kind of baseline to build on top of to do something new. There's just this confused mess of hype, hokum and ignorance. Every "bot" sounds the same -- either like Alice (which just sounds like Eliza++), or like some East European nerd on LSD.
Unfortunately there's nobody in between these totally unserious clowns, and the real AI researchers, who are trying to actually figure out how the brain works, instead of rediscovering parlor tricks for the 200th time.
Bev
19 years ago
19 years ago
Yep. Prob, that was one of the jerks. It sounds like he lost a contest a while back and never forgives anything he dosn't instantly succeed at. It's a shame, really.
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