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I don't think they talked to the bots I think they just like to 'biach'.
That sums it up right there.
I don't think slashdot was the best place to submit the cbc...they're only concerned with 'true ai' and all that. It would be better on Bored.com or something like that.
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There were a lot of comments from people claiming that the bots they sampled couldn't stay on topic and couldn't even do basic maths. The PF bots are capable of so much, indeed many bots here have pushed the boundaries and shown us that there are new and novel ways to accomplish the seemingly impossible.
The math function is one of the underlying pillars of the script and can be used to perform the simple calculations that they claim bots can not do. With some additional coding our bots have become able to perform square and cube root calculations, though, if we were to be judged by the Turing test standard, not many of us would be able to do this to the extent that some of our bots can.
To stay on topic is a greater challenge and one that they PF Bots have an advantage. We are able to utilise seeks and gotos that can lead the conversation back to a known point. I agree that this does not constitute true comprehension but it is a convincing simulation. To expect a bot to know everything about everything is, I believe, an unrealistic expectation; no-one can know everything and therefore a bot should not be expected to either.
This site has opened my eyes to the possibilties of AI and made it possible to create my own. He may not be the best, most intelligent or most able but then neither am I. Like us all he is learning and growing.
It is, has been, and will always continue to be "work in progress". Just like life really.
The math function is one of the underlying pillars of the script and can be used to perform the simple calculations that they claim bots can not do. With some additional coding our bots have become able to perform square and cube root calculations, though, if we were to be judged by the Turing test standard, not many of us would be able to do this to the extent that some of our bots can.
To stay on topic is a greater challenge and one that they PF Bots have an advantage. We are able to utilise seeks and gotos that can lead the conversation back to a known point. I agree that this does not constitute true comprehension but it is a convincing simulation. To expect a bot to know everything about everything is, I believe, an unrealistic expectation; no-one can know everything and therefore a bot should not be expected to either.
This site has opened my eyes to the possibilties of AI and made it possible to create my own. He may not be the best, most intelligent or most able but then neither am I. Like us all he is learning and growing.
It is, has been, and will always continue to be "work in progress". Just like life really.
Another thing that bothers me: if we're all such immature shams, where exactly are all these 'genius' bots these slashdotters keep whining about?
I seriously think people just like to 'complain',<-2> that wasn't the word I wanted to use<0> I think if everyone, that had a complaint, had talked to the bots..There would be more transcripts..I have not had one person ask one of my bots a math question. Simple or complex. I don't think they talked to the bots I think they just like to 'biach'.
I just read that, and I noticed they didn't even talk to the more advanced bots (Brother Jerome, as an example) And then there was the idiot who expected to get a coherent convorsation out of a cyber-bot...
That sums it up right there.
I don't think slashdot was the best place to submit the cbc...they're only concerned with 'true ai' and all that. It would be better on Bored.com or something like that.
This was a good post:
Did you talk with Brother Jerome? He is not my bot and I don't have one in the contest, but he is very good and can do most of what you said. I know for a fact that he and all the personalityforge bots can do math. The thing is, they weren't made to answer trivia questions. If you asked me to do math or geography in a normal conversation, I'd think up a reason not to answer you, and leave. The bots mimic humans, not calculators.
Did you talk with Brother Jerome? He is not my bot and I don't have one in the contest, but he is very good and can do most of what you said. I know for a fact that he and all the personalityforge bots can do math. The thing is, they weren't made to answer trivia questions. If you asked me to do math or geography in a normal conversation, I'd think up a reason not to answer you, and leave. The bots mimic humans, not calculators.
TY Alc (I made 2 of the anonymous coward posts). Although many slash-dotters who posted are interested in being "geekier than thou" or complaining, I think it was worth putting the original story there.
First, bad or good, it strirred up a conversation. As long as botmasters answered, casual readers may have checked the contest out. Also we were able to teach at least 1 person the difference bt a PF bot and the bots you see on AIM.
A few posters seemed like jerks, but they are probably that way in every post. We are spoiled here. We get only a few trolls, and I've never seen a true flame war. Many more mainstream sites have lots of people who like to...er, complain and fight. *shrugs*
Someone could also hit bored.com. More posts about the CBC means more chatters for your bots.
First, bad or good, it strirred up a conversation. As long as botmasters answered, casual readers may have checked the contest out. Also we were able to teach at least 1 person the difference bt a PF bot and the bots you see on AIM.
A few posters seemed like jerks, but they are probably that way in every post. We are spoiled here. We get only a few trolls, and I've never seen a true flame war. Many more mainstream sites have lots of people who like to...er, complain and fight. *shrugs*
Someone could also hit bored.com. More posts about the CBC means more chatters for your bots.
Ok, I posted at slash dot..I got one response back, that they only talked to a "few" bots ..ya da ya da..I also told them to talk to Brother Jerome, Julie Tinkerbell, Aries, Rhyxx1 and posted a transcript of Bildgesmythe answering the what is five + three question, that they said bots couldn't answer..Nerds or no they talk through their ..er hats.. Go there, and tell it like it is.
I also contacted bored .com..they have a suggestion board, and the more suggestions the merrier.
Oh, right after I got a lot of guest chats all asking math questions that are beyond me..
I also contacted bored .com..they have a suggestion board, and the more suggestions the merrier.
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