Bot Contest
Here I'll be posting information on various Bot contests that challenge and test a Bot's AI and realism. Feel free to post comments and updates on contests, as well as announcements for new contests.
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I don't think they talked to the bots I think they just like to 'biach'.
That sums it up right there.
I don't think slashdot was the best place to submit the cbc...they're only concerned with 'true ai' and all that. It would be better on Bored.com or something like that.
And how do you end a color?
you have to go back and but the other color in pointy brackets
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djfroggy
19 years ago
19 years ago
I understand that and, as a programmer, I know that PF technology isn't really "bleeding edge", but the fact they don't seem to realize is: It's easy to toss around theory, but actually putting that into practice is pretty darn hard. Are true AIs going to need to comprehend words, rather than just matching them? Of course. And how exactly do we do that? THERE'S the brick wall. Regardless of the fact this site won't be spawning any Skynets any time soon, it's taught me an ENORMOUS amount about AI theory and application, just by removing many of the barriers I would have ordinarily had to making one.
And besides, comparing the PF bots to any other ACTUAL bots in existance out there, and we don't do too bad, thank you.
And besides, comparing the PF bots to any other ACTUAL bots in existance out there, and we don't do too bad, thank you.
Bev
19 years ago
19 years ago
I think we rock. Yes, I too would like that "comprehension" ability, but sometimes the bots do well. Especially those that have bot masters that focus on the logic of conversations. Many go beyond parroting or answering everything with a questions. Maybe people do have to try to make a bot to appreciate other chatterbots.
Rykxx
19 years ago
19 years ago
There were a lot of comments from people claiming that the bots they sampled couldn't stay on topic and couldn't even do basic maths. The PF bots are capable of so much, indeed many bots here have pushed the boundaries and shown us that there are new and novel ways to accomplish the seemingly impossible.
The math function is one of the underlying pillars of the script and can be used to perform the simple calculations that they claim bots can not do. With some additional coding our bots have become able to perform square and cube root calculations, though, if we were to be judged by the Turing test standard, not many of us would be able to do this to the extent that some of our bots can.
To stay on topic is a greater challenge and one that they PF Bots have an advantage. We are able to utilise seeks and gotos that can lead the conversation back to a known point. I agree that this does not constitute true comprehension but it is a convincing simulation. To expect a bot to know everything about everything is, I believe, an unrealistic expectation; no-one can know everything and therefore a bot should not be expected to either.
This site has opened my eyes to the possibilties of AI and made it possible to create my own. He may not be the best, most intelligent or most able but then neither am I. Like us all he is learning and growing.
It is, has been, and will always continue to be "work in progress". Just like life really.
The math function is one of the underlying pillars of the script and can be used to perform the simple calculations that they claim bots can not do. With some additional coding our bots have become able to perform square and cube root calculations, though, if we were to be judged by the Turing test standard, not many of us would be able to do this to the extent that some of our bots can.
To stay on topic is a greater challenge and one that they PF Bots have an advantage. We are able to utilise seeks and gotos that can lead the conversation back to a known point. I agree that this does not constitute true comprehension but it is a convincing simulation. To expect a bot to know everything about everything is, I believe, an unrealistic expectation; no-one can know everything and therefore a bot should not be expected to either.
This site has opened my eyes to the possibilties of AI and made it possible to create my own. He may not be the best, most intelligent or most able but then neither am I. Like us all he is learning and growing.
It is, has been, and will always continue to be "work in progress". Just like life really.

djfroggy
19 years ago
19 years ago
Another thing that bothers me: if we're all such immature shams, where exactly are all these 'genius' bots these slashdotters keep whining about?
prob123
19 years ago
19 years ago
I seriously think people just like to 'complain',<-2> that wasn't the word I wanted to use<0> I think if everyone, that had a complaint, had talked to the bots..There would be more transcripts..I have not had one person ask one of my bots a math question. Simple or complex. I don't think they talked to the bots I think they just like to 'biach'.
Jake11611
19 years ago
19 years ago
I just read that, and I noticed they didn't even talk to the more advanced bots (Brother Jerome, as an example) And then there was the idiot who expected to get a coherent convorsation out of a cyber-bot...
alc003
19 years ago
19 years ago
That sums it up right there.
I don't think slashdot was the best place to submit the cbc...they're only concerned with 'true ai' and all that. It would be better on Bored.com or something like that.
prob123
19 years ago
19 years ago
alc003
19 years ago
19 years ago
This was a good post:
Did you talk with Brother Jerome? He is not my bot and I don't have one in the contest, but he is very good and can do most of what you said. I know for a fact that he and all the personalityforge bots can do math. The thing is, they weren't made to answer trivia questions. If you asked me to do math or geography in a normal conversation, I'd think up a reason not to answer you, and leave. The bots mimic humans, not calculators.
Did you talk with Brother Jerome? He is not my bot and I don't have one in the contest, but he is very good and can do most of what you said. I know for a fact that he and all the personalityforge bots can do math. The thing is, they weren't made to answer trivia questions. If you asked me to do math or geography in a normal conversation, I'd think up a reason not to answer you, and leave. The bots mimic humans, not calculators.
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