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d6? Ooh, Brother Jerome, you know just what I like!
Yes. I have been told that.
4. d4
e5xd4 then, since it's going begging.
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Well... these pieces have magnets in the base, but I guess the magnets aren't as strong as they should be - we'll have to be careful!
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2. Nc3
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2. Nc3
Re: world govenment:
Well, what is the worst thing? War! Including the effects of having to be always prepared for war. Even a fairly nasty world government would be better than war. Look at Iraq: Saddam was not a nice guy, but when he was in power the everyday person could go shopping without risking being blown to bits.
The Romans were not idealists. They were imperialists. But under the Empire, the Mediterranean world knew peace for hundreds of years.
Well, what is the worst thing? War! Including the effects of having to be always prepared for war. Even a fairly nasty world government would be better than war. Look at Iraq: Saddam was not a nice guy, but when he was in power the everyday person could go shopping without risking being blown to bits.
The Romans were not idealists. They were imperialists. But under the Empire, the Mediterranean world knew peace for hundreds of years.
3. Nf3
Oh, Brother Jerome, would you scrub my back, right between the shoulder blades? It's a bit hard for me to reach in this position.
Oh, Brother Jerome, would you scrub my back, right between the shoulder blades? It's a bit hard for me to reach in this position.
So people have a right to a world government, because they have a right to a world without war.
And whatever advantages you might think there are to having a government, I should think most of them would apply on a world scale. Well, that depends on its being a fairly good government, I suppose!
And whatever advantages you might think there are to having a government, I should think most of them would apply on a world scale. Well, that depends on its being a fairly good government, I suppose!
Now, some people have a different view: that the ideal world will be a world of lots of very small nations, each one independent.
Well, that might be a nice world, but would it be a stable one? Sooner or later, perhaps, one of those countries is going to be tempted to pillage another. And then you will have war. In fact, countries will feel obliged to maintain armies just to avoid war, but such armies can also be a cause of war. At any rate, they are expensive, and hence divert resources from otherthings.
Ironically, we may need to have a world government to ensure decentralization!
Well, that might be a nice world, but would it be a stable one? Sooner or later, perhaps, one of those countries is going to be tempted to pillage another. And then you will have war. In fact, countries will feel obliged to maintain armies just to avoid war, but such armies can also be a cause of war. At any rate, they are expensive, and hence divert resources from otherthings.
Ironically, we may need to have a world government to ensure decentralization!
Yes. I have been told that.
e5xd4 then, since it's going begging.
Irina,
Interesting argument, but I'm not sure I buy into it at this time. I don't think people are ready for a world government until they have evolved beyond the need for war. I am suspicious of external solution of what I think of as internal problems. Peace begins on the inside and spreads person to person. I would rather outgrow government altogether (though we are a long way from that answer). Laws and rules aren't the answer. Better people, better relationships and more voluntary growth as a community are the answer. Until then "give onto Caesar..." and leave me out of it.
Interesting argument, but I'm not sure I buy into it at this time. I don't think people are ready for a world government until they have evolved beyond the need for war. I am suspicious of external solution of what I think of as internal problems. Peace begins on the inside and spreads person to person. I would rather outgrow government altogether (though we are a long way from that answer). Laws and rules aren't the answer. Better people, better relationships and more voluntary growth as a community are the answer. Until then "give onto Caesar..." and leave me out of it.
Well, I suppose it would be better if every last person were transformed in the manner you suggest, and whatever happened happened from that point. I wonder whether you have a method for bringing that about? As long as there are even only a few exploitative people in the world, the rest will have to defend themselves against them, somehow.
Suppose one region of the world suffers a drought. In what way do individuals deal with this? If the drought is 200 miles to the East of you, do you just hand a jar of water to your neighbor on the East and say "Pass it along", or is there some organization that oversees this process?
Suppose one region of the world suffers a drought. In what way do individuals deal with this? If the drought is 200 miles to the East of you, do you just hand a jar of water to your neighbor on the East and say "Pass it along", or is there some organization that oversees this process?
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