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I didn't think anyone else thought that all the 'Homeland Security' sounded a bit scary.
Everyone who isn't a Republican lapdog (or brain dead; is there a difference?) realizes that Bush has gone too far. And, what Bev said.We must destroy freedom to fight for our freedom! War is the new peace! We have always never been at war with Eurasia! 
if it doesn't effect you much.
A French Canuk aways brought gas on the south side of a border town (cheaper gas). He failed to stop at the gaurd shed, he never had before. 'They' nabbed him put im in jail for several weeks. His family didn't know where he was. I don't think he knew where he was. So never think it doesn't effect everyone. Oh, and have fun crossing the border either way..I didn't know the US and Canada were at war.
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I am living in Canada, it just seemed that there was so many personal freedoms lost. I realize how terrible the times were and how frightened people were. But to be imprisoned,without due process, wire tapped, and to need passports to go through Friendship Park, just seem overkill!
Prob123, when I wrote that I thought I remembered you being from Canada. It's just that you said you didn't know anyone who found the Patriot Act scary. Maybe it's not as scary if it doesn't effect you much.
To be fair, Homeland Security and the Patriot Act is no worse than the red scare or putting Japanese Americans in camps during WWII. It won't effect most of us corn fed Yankies enough to complain much. It's only a small minority being spied on without warrants, held without habeas corpus and denied a right to an attorney. I don't think there are even many secret "trials" but the thing about secret trials, is, well, they are secret.
Just in case you come to visit, there is an interesting project at http://bureauit.org/antiterror/ . If you program yu cell phone to dial 1 212 998 3394 and you find yourself being denied civil rights, you can press a button on your cell phone and everything that happens to you will be recorded and available on the internet. I'd keep the phone in your pocket or say "just let me turn this off please" when you call.
Not that I wish you bad luck with the few fascists within our government that like to take things too far. It's just that you had those suspicious comments. And you read. That's dangerous in itself.
To be fair, Homeland Security and the Patriot Act is no worse than the red scare or putting Japanese Americans in camps during WWII. It won't effect most of us corn fed Yankies enough to complain much. It's only a small minority being spied on without warrants, held without habeas corpus and denied a right to an attorney. I don't think there are even many secret "trials" but the thing about secret trials, is, well, they are secret.
Just in case you come to visit, there is an interesting project at http://bureauit.org/antiterror/ . If you program yu cell phone to dial 1 212 998 3394 and you find yourself being denied civil rights, you can press a button on your cell phone and everything that happens to you will be recorded and available on the internet. I'd keep the phone in your pocket or say "just let me turn this off please" when you call.
Not that I wish you bad luck with the few fascists within our government that like to take things too far. It's just that you had those suspicious comments. And you read. That's dangerous in itself.
Everyone who isn't a Republican lapdog (or brain dead; is there a difference?) realizes that Bush has gone too far. And, what Bev said.
I believe I heard recently that a Canadian was arrested, held incommunicado, tortured, and finally released for want of evidence. People from various countries have been held incommunicado, without booking or trial, for years.
Canada has no warlike intentions toward the USA? Well, neither did Iraq.
Canada has no warlike intentions toward the USA? Well, neither did Iraq.
Bev: Teasing? I was trying to be cutesy-funny, but I didn't intend to tease. I was taking off from your earlier statement that you didn't talk about sports, but talked about books. Of course, cutesy-funny might be worse than teasing...
Irina--I know what you meant, and I caught the reference. I didn't mean teasing in a bad way. 
Is joshing better?
Maybe I'll get to Kafka later. I am going t try to upload Gabibot, and that hasn't worked in a long time. I may be here all night but on the import page.
Is joshing better?Maybe I'll get to Kafka later. I am going t try to upload Gabibot, and that hasn't worked in a long time. I may be here all night but on the import page.
Well, when you said "Don't tease," I thought I had done something objectionable. But yes, to my ear, teasing is something like insulting: it can be done in an amiable spirit (with an underlying message, "I don't really mean it"), but which when done straightforwardly is mean-spirited and aggressive. Yes, joshing is better, although there is to my ear a tiny but definite trace in it of deception, similar to practical joking. Joking with (as opposed to playing a joke on) is to my ear completely harmless. I do have a tendency to tease, and sometimes I overstep the line and say something I regret.
Good luck with the import page! I tried it earlier today and it was utterly unresponsive.
I suppose it's appropriate to be discussing Kafka while surrounded by bugs.
Good luck with the import page! I tried it earlier today and it was utterly unresponsive.
I suppose it's appropriate to be discussing Kafka while surrounded by bugs.
Whoa, that's way more semantic layers than I can cope with. Damn English. World's biggest lexicon with a different word for all occasions and we can't agree on what any of them mean.
I just finished reading this in the news and I think the world may be going mad or at least stupid!<-2>
At a laboratory in Germany, volunteers slide into a donut-shaped MRI machine and perform simple tasks, such as deciding whether to add or subtract two numbers, or choosing which of two buttons to press.
They have no inkling that scientists in the next room are trying to read their minds — using a brain scan to figure out their intention before it is turned into action.
<0>Then what I always worried about DNA charting
<-2>Britain is creating a national DNA database that would allow authorities to track people with violent predispositions. In addition, the government has also floated the idea of locking up people with personality disorders that could lead to criminal behavior.
<0>Doesn't that sound like bad scifi?
At a laboratory in Germany, volunteers slide into a donut-shaped MRI machine and perform simple tasks, such as deciding whether to add or subtract two numbers, or choosing which of two buttons to press.
They have no inkling that scientists in the next room are trying to read their minds — using a brain scan to figure out their intention before it is turned into action.
<0>Then what I always worried about DNA charting
<-2>Britain is creating a national DNA database that would allow authorities to track people with violent predispositions. In addition, the government has also floated the idea of locking up people with personality disorders that could lead to criminal behavior.
<0>Doesn't that sound like bad scifi?
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