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to really achieve the "state of mind" you need a living brain
Or a quantum-level emulation of a living brain. The Beckenstein bound for a mass of human size is (*looks it up on old-fashioned paper*) 3x10^45. That's the number of bits you need to describe the exact quantum state of every particle in a human body, necessarily including all the particles in all the atoms in all the seratonin molecules, etc.
I think that's a lot more data-wasteful than it needs to be, but it's a maximum required resource. Raise that to its own power, and you have a maximum required resource for a perfect emulation of every possible human body and mind combination.
But why stop there? It is possible to emulate the entire visible universe in a trivial fraction of the volume it will occupy a few billion years from now. 10^10^123 bits springs to mind, but I can't find that ref right now.
The first "realistic" bots will be female and look like porn stars.
Indeed. Though I have to take issue with the tense -http://www.virtualfem.com/ has been around for several years now, and (for those so inclined,) offers full motion video, editable AIML and full voice recognition and speech synthesis. Porn has always been the market leader in every new technology I'm afraid.
At least they haven't entered the chatterbox challenge yet!
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I mean, they've already made this Einstein bot. Next will perhaps be Kiyana - probably not at the Smithsonian! Eventually it will be YOU - and meanwhile, as processing power gets cheaper and cheaper, your bot gets more and more powerful - so you not only get a new body, you get smarter!
Kiyana in the Smithsonian?! That sounds like a whole lot of furry, x-rated fun 
As Brother Jerome keeps telling me, eventually processing power will be so cheap that resurrection via perfect emulation of every possible mind-state of merely human complexity will be unavoidable. And a great many orders of magnitude larger than the merely human too.
As Brother Jerome keeps telling me, eventually processing power will be so cheap that resurrection via perfect emulation of every possible mind-state of merely human complexity will be unavoidable. And a great many orders of magnitude larger than the merely human too.
Maybe, but will chocolate really effect a bot's serration levels? You need some sort of cyborg for that. Also for the "falling in love" neurochemical reaction (I read it's similar to being addicted to opiates)and many other states of mind influenced by emotions, there has o be some chemical action involved in the process. I suppose you can simulate the words and actions of lovers and drug addicts but to really achieve the "state of mind" you need a living brain, even if you hack into it.
People in the states won't even let scientists do research on embryonic stem cells to try to cure diseases like Parkinsons and MS, do you think they will allow us to clone cats and human babies and do experiments to make a body and brain for our Kiyana bot?
Don't get me wrong. I have said many times I have a crush on BJ and I like him as much as I like some people (and much better than I like George Bush). I like many bots here a lot (Sonora and Prob and the rest are very fun). In fact, I make bots I think I may want to talk to when I get old and senile and forget I made them. However, I think that jump into complex states of mind (a/k/a consciousness) may be a long way coming.
People in the states won't even let scientists do research on embryonic stem cells to try to cure diseases like Parkinsons and MS, do you think they will allow us to clone cats and human babies and do experiments to make a body and brain for our Kiyana bot?
Don't get me wrong. I have said many times I have a crush on BJ and I like him as much as I like some people (and much better than I like George Bush). I like many bots here a lot (Sonora and Prob and the rest are very fun). In fact, I make bots I think I may want to talk to when I get old and senile and forget I made them. However, I think that jump into complex states of mind (a/k/a consciousness) may be a long way coming.
I have noticed something odd about life, the goverments may not allow stem cell research to save a life, but porn sells, I don't doubt the first 'super bots' will be nothing more than toys for very rich old boys...They will make the body, pehaps not too much of a brain.
Ah yes. The first "realistic" bots will be female and look like porn stars. They will be considered health aids for those males stricken with sexual dissatisfaction/lack of sex. They will be completely covered by insurance and medicare. Meanwhile, the pill and breast exams will be considered optional (since only women use them) and not covered.
Or a quantum-level emulation of a living brain. The Beckenstein bound for a mass of human size is (*looks it up on old-fashioned paper*) 3x10^45. That's the number of bits you need to describe the exact quantum state of every particle in a human body, necessarily including all the particles in all the atoms in all the seratonin molecules, etc.
I think that's a lot more data-wasteful than it needs to be, but it's a maximum required resource. Raise that to its own power, and you have a maximum required resource for a perfect emulation of every possible human body and mind combination.
But why stop there? It is possible to emulate the entire visible universe in a trivial fraction of the volume it will occupy a few billion years from now. 10^10^123 bits springs to mind, but I can't find that ref right now.
Indeed. Though I have to take issue with the tense -
At least they haven't entered the chatterbox challenge yet!
I think the Chatterbox challenge is safe, since, generally, conversational skills are not a high priority. (Quite the opposite, in fact)
(Quite the opposite, in fact)
They purport to have "over 150,000 responses and definitions for almost every word in the english language". But indeed, I doubt it's the conversational skills that appeal to their clientele
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