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is there a way I can reference it as an API?
Yes. How's your java? Seehttp://www.cyc.com/doc/opencyc_api/java_api/ (particularly CycAccess and CycAssertion, and the input and output streams, CfaslInputStream and CfaslOutputStream) for details. There's also a Class ExportHtml for ease of integrating into web-based applications.
The java's quite a bit beyond me, but if you need any html or javascript, feel free to ask.
copy its entire contents to whatever structure I set up?
Only if the structure was so similar that there'd be little point reinventing it, I would guess.
signed up over 8000 people already (a nice little earner!)
Plus another 1000 in the last ~36 hours. That'll be down to the recent Press exposure presumably!
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dialup? not anymore. I have had optimum online for about a year now, reaching download speeds of 1MB/s. I have downloaded opencyc, but found no use for it at the time. is there a way I can reference it as an API?
Yes. How's your java? See
The java's quite a bit beyond me, but if you need any html or javascript, feel free to ask.
Only if the structure was so similar that there'd be little point reinventing it, I would guess.
There's a C API as well (http://www.ime.usp.br/~fr/opencyc/ ,) if that's more to your liking (see discussion @ http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1318125&forum_id=85727)
It's apparently not as feature-rich as the java though.
It's apparently not as feature-rich as the java though.
Plus another 1000 in the last ~36 hours. That'll be down to the recent Press exposure presumably!
Colonel, any chance of a "Nick Lite" that doesn't need .Net or anything installed? The only MS machine I have is an old laptop. I realise Nick would run like a snail but would still be interested in seeing him in action.
Nick lite - well, i tried building one for the Pocket PC, but there was a threading problem in one of the functions within the neural network class library that did not allow it to run on the PDA. if you download Nick, it may run on a slowr machine, just disable vision, speech, progess bars, and everything else there is to disable. download the .NET framework and give it a try. (though there may be some XP specific features about the .NET framework)
A link for you, Colonel (and anyone else who's interested) - http://bluebrainproject.epfl.ch/blue%20gene.htm
It comes as a welcome surprise to find that the world's fastest computer is being devoted to neural net AI, and that they're predicting "whole brain simulations within the next 3 years" (Blue Gene link.)
According to top500.org (insane but true!) the system's running 8000 processors, with 32Tb RAM, and is capable of a peak speed of 360 Tflops!
I don't know how useful it is to you, but they've started publishing their results in a database @http://microcircuit.epfl.ch/
It comes as a welcome surprise to find that the world's fastest computer is being devoted to neural net AI, and that they're predicting "whole brain simulations within the next 3 years" (Blue Gene link.)
According to top500.org (insane but true!) the system's running 8000 processors, with 32Tb RAM, and is capable of a peak speed of 360 Tflops!
I don't know how useful it is to you, but they've started publishing their results in a database @
wow... that they have quantified all this, and are going to write software to take these numbers and consruct a true model of the human brain!
I really wish i could join their team. it would be really exciting to be that much on the cutting edge of Artificial Intelligence...
I really wish i could join their team. it would be really exciting to be that much on the cutting edge of Artificial Intelligence...
Well, "mammalian brain" - it'll still be smaller than human by a factor of several thousand I'd guess, but should achieve the neural mass of, say, a small rodent. And with a disproportionate cortical mass (I assume they're not going to model much of the metabolic lower brain function anyway,) that should be quite enough to display indications of self-awareness and independent cognition.
If you want to try to match that, press on with the distributed computing program - if you can get 8000 people to run it, you'll match their bandwidth (even if not their speed!)
I've been playing with a jabberwacky clone (they do allow access to the jw database
) - they have a rather sophisticated set of "learn from text file" options which you might like to consider for Nick2, particularly that you can feed conversations in, and it will only learn the lines begining "nick:" (or in my case "ignatius:") for use in conversation, but will learn the context from the other half of the conversation, for deciding when to use particular elements. This makes training from PF transcripts/plays/IRC logs/whatever a breeze. I'll email you the details.
If you want to try to match that, press on with the distributed computing program - if you can get 8000 people to run it, you'll match their bandwidth (even if not their speed!)
I've been playing with a jabberwacky clone (they do allow access to the jw database
) - they have a rather sophisticated set of "learn from text file" options which you might like to consider for Nick2, particularly that you can feed conversations in, and it will only learn the lines begining "nick:" (or in my case "ignatius:") for use in conversation, but will learn the context from the other half of the conversation, for deciding when to use particular elements. This makes training from PF transcripts/plays/IRC logs/whatever a breeze. I'll email you the details.
Blue Brain is fascinating but raises some interesting questions.
If one wants to observe rat behaviour, is it enough to simulate (however accurately) a rat *brain*? To what extent is behaviour - and thought - dependent on sensory input and in particular action feedback? To get true rat behaviour will one also have to accurately stimulate rat senses - including proprioception? And even if one simulates those senses, what about their input? Will it be necessary to build an entire simulated rat? Or to simulate an entire world for the program to run in?
In other words, even if a simulated brain achieves self-awareness, would we *recognise* the sort of consciousness raised from birth with almost no senses and suffering total paralysis?
If anything those questions make the whole Blue Brain thing *more* interesting.
If one wants to observe rat behaviour, is it enough to simulate (however accurately) a rat *brain*? To what extent is behaviour - and thought - dependent on sensory input and in particular action feedback? To get true rat behaviour will one also have to accurately stimulate rat senses - including proprioception? And even if one simulates those senses, what about their input? Will it be necessary to build an entire simulated rat? Or to simulate an entire world for the program to run in?
In other words, even if a simulated brain achieves self-awareness, would we *recognise* the sort of consciousness raised from birth with almost no senses and suffering total paralysis?
If anything those questions make the whole Blue Brain thing *more* interesting.
psimagus: I'd be interested in those details as well, thanks. Finding the Forge and reading about Nick have persuaded me to brush the dust off my own AI experiment. I haven't been near it for about ten years so it'll be a lot of dust!
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