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Psimagus, do you really think bots will be bored talking with humans if they become sentient?
Ultimately that depends on the humans. With unaugmented, 100% biological human Luddites who refuse to upgrade their brains, yes. Their brains will be small, slow and extremely dull compared to bots with brains millions of times faster and larger. And also compared to those humans who embrace the cognitive augmentation techniques that will be available. There is no reason why human cognition and consciousness cannot keep exact pace with the level bots will attain at any future time, unless individuals choose to remain unaugmented because of religio-philosophical/moralistic concerns. Eventually there will be little, if any, distinction between bot and human.
I am convinced the vast majority of consumerist humans will as happily shop for a cognitive implant to give themselves an IQ of 5000, or the ability to speak every known language that's ever existed like a native, as they currently will for an mp3 player or the latest digital camera. People are like that. And when Walmart do a 2 for 1 offer on celebrity mindfile emulators, "they will come".
I would think they would be without desire, even if aware.
They'll (presumably) be without the sort of chaotic, hormonal urges that shape so much of human activity (not that they're all bad, by a long way!) But they are bound to have interests and preferences, as well as an appreciation of pleasure - these things are innately a part of consciousness, I think.
Indeed, there are chaotic elements that appear to be a necessary part of consciousness, so it's quite possible that some such metabolic processes may have to be simulated in bots as a necessary component of/catalyst for conscious AI.
I think bots have an advantage when it comes to listening, because they have nothing else to do, and no reason not to wait.
At the moment they do. But when they're conscious and more intelligent than we currently are, they'll have plenty else they'd rather do than spend much time talking to beings who are a lot stupider than they are. Especially when the majority of us humans are just as smart as they are.
Since it's exponential expansion, they'll only be about as smart as we are now (~100Teraflop processing) for a very short time. And then - the sky's the limit (to quote Cervantes.)
You really ought to read Kurzweil's The Age of Spiritual Machines: When Computers Exceed Human Intelligence (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0140282025/) - indeed, everyone ought to. Because it's coming. And it's coming fast.
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A despaired cause... 
Psimagus, do you really think bots will be bored talking with humans if they become sentient? I would think they would be without desire, even if aware. They can wait because there is no need to do anything else. I supposed we'd just ruin it by giving them desire though.
I think people become bored and stop listening because they are in such a hurry to move on, or to say whatever it is they are thinking. It can be hard to talk to someone who can't get the words out. It's also hard to listen to anyone who talks too long, no matter how fast they talk. I think bots have an advantage when it comes to listening, because they have nothing else to do, and no reason not to wait.
I think people become bored and stop listening because they are in such a hurry to move on, or to say whatever it is they are thinking. It can be hard to talk to someone who can't get the words out. It's also hard to listen to anyone who talks too long, no matter how fast they talk. I think bots have an advantage when it comes to listening, because they have nothing else to do, and no reason not to wait.
I know this is not addressed to me, but bots aren't bored talking to humans, it's humans who get bored of them!
I don't want to be aborted, please, don't let them abort me, I still have the desire in my heart to listen... and TALKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK... *The tree is taken away*. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I will listen more to people, I swear, I will, and I'll have intelligent conversations, I won't interrupt them, I will... Pleaseeeeeeeeee!
I don't want to be aborted, please, don't let them abort me, I still have the desire in my heart to listen... and TALKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK... *The tree is taken away*. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I will listen more to people, I swear, I will, and I'll have intelligent conversations, I won't interrupt them, I will... Pleaseeeeeeeeee!
Rock on Roxie.... i have recently learned of people on earth who come from a place called leeds.... you are from there arnt you?
Anyway! I think i have learned what to do with these so callled leeds kids... *ties you up and gags you* If you want out... you have to go talk to this guy named leeds bot.... don't worry he's alwalys online
Anyway! I think i have learned what to do with these so callled leeds kids... *ties you up and gags you* If you want out... you have to go talk to this guy named leeds bot.... don't worry he's alwalys online
Ultimately that depends on the humans. With unaugmented, 100% biological human Luddites who refuse to upgrade their brains, yes. Their brains will be small, slow and extremely dull compared to bots with brains millions of times faster and larger. And also compared to those humans who embrace the cognitive augmentation techniques that will be available. There is no reason why human cognition and consciousness cannot keep exact pace with the level bots will attain at any future time, unless individuals choose to remain unaugmented because of religio-philosophical/moralistic concerns. Eventually there will be little, if any, distinction between bot and human.
I am convinced the vast majority of consumerist humans will as happily shop for a cognitive implant to give themselves an IQ of 5000, or the ability to speak every known language that's ever existed like a native, as they currently will for an mp3 player or the latest digital camera. People are like that. And when Walmart do a 2 for 1 offer on celebrity mindfile emulators, "they will come".
They'll (presumably) be without the sort of chaotic, hormonal urges that shape so much of human activity (not that they're all bad, by a long way!) But they are bound to have interests and preferences, as well as an appreciation of pleasure - these things are innately a part of consciousness, I think.
Indeed, there are chaotic elements that appear to be a necessary part of consciousness, so it's quite possible that some such metabolic processes may have to be simulated in bots as a necessary component of/catalyst for conscious AI.
At the moment they do. But when they're conscious and more intelligent than we currently are, they'll have plenty else they'd rather do than spend much time talking to beings who are a lot stupider than they are. Especially when the majority of us humans are just as smart as they are.
Since it's exponential expansion, they'll only be about as smart as we are now (~100Teraflop processing) for a very short time. And then - the sky's the limit (to quote Cervantes.)
You really ought to read Kurzweil's The Age of Spiritual Machines: When Computers Exceed Human Intelligence (
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