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what kind of programming language is the robopet's brain in?
Some sort of custom control system flashed to an eprom I assume. I wasn't planning on augmenting it, but bypassing it with an RS232>USB interface board (I can only think in RS232 - it's what I grew up with,) straight to the motors. It's been too long since I was into eprom flashing - I wouldn't know where to start on reverse-engineering such a thing now! But it's not strong enough to carry the extra hardware (well, the interface board would be small, but the OQO's as heavy as the Robopet
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I did find a rather cool robotic dog kit athttp://scmstore.com/english/robotic/programmable/Dog/index.htm though, which is reasonably cheap ($320 - well, cheaper than an AIBO anyway,) and looks pretty cool.
A company claims that they are about to release the worlds first actually conscious AI!
They've been claiming this for at least a year now - I'll believe it when I see it. There's a forthcoming book apparently (still not out,) but given the breathless and not particularly grammatical style of the website, I fear it'll be unreadable.
How are you getting on with Kurzweil's latest? Food for thought, eh?
within around 30 years there will be AI so well developed that it will be ALMOST equivliant to a human
I'd say 10-20 years. 30 years from now it will massively exceed human-scale intelligence (thanks to exponential growth) and the Singularity may even be underway.
See
http://www.kurzweilai.net/meme/frame.html?m=1,
http://www.singularity.org/
and Vinge's original article:http://www.aleph.se/Trans/Global/Singularity/sing.html
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Rumors of the first sentient artificial intelligence robot... A company claims that they are about to release the worlds first actually conscious AI!
direct link to article:
http://www.pibot.com/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=PIBOT
dramatic flash intro before article:
www.pibot.com
direct link to article:
Some sort of custom control system flashed to an eprom I assume. I wasn't planning on augmenting it, but bypassing it with an RS232>USB interface board (I can only think in RS232 - it's what I grew up with,) straight to the motors. It's been too long since I was into eprom flashing - I wouldn't know where to start on reverse-engineering such a thing now! But it's not strong enough to carry the extra hardware (well, the interface board would be small, but the OQO's as heavy as the Robopet
)I did find a rather cool robotic dog kit at
They've been claiming this for at least a year now - I'll believe it when I see it. There's a forthcoming book apparently (still not out,) but given the breathless and not particularly grammatical style of the website, I fear it'll be unreadable.
How are you getting on with Kurzweil's latest? Food for thought, eh?
Further to entangled photons - there's an article in the latest New Scientist: (http://www.newscientist.com/channel/info-tech/mg18925344.900.html) describing a computer chip that generates them. A great improvement on the unwieldy laser set-up it's hitherto required!
Perhaps this will put a bit of temporary security back into the world of cryptography since the SHA-1 was hacked recently (
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/info-tech/mg18825301.600)
It certainly takes a major step towards stable "desktop" quantum computing.
Perhaps this will put a bit of temporary security back into the world of cryptography since the SHA-1 was hacked recently (
It certainly takes a major step towards stable "desktop" quantum computing.
On a different track of improbable animals:
http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=3505
There are 11 pages with four images on each page. My favorite is the giant kitty cat with laser beam eyes, though the spider at the bottom of the first page is quite nice as well.
(I should probably mention that while the pictures are a lot of fun, the captions are mostly annoying)
http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=3505
There are 11 pages with four images on each page. My favorite is the giant kitty cat with laser beam eyes, though the spider at the bottom of the first page is quite nice as well.
(I should probably mention that while the pictures are a lot of fun, the captions are mostly annoying)
While on the topic of Realistic AI. Who here beleives that within around 30 years there will be AI so well developed that it will be ALMOST equivliant to a human. Take the movements of asimo and a couple others like thim out there now, the skin and stucture of the faces and the "docotor on the couch" at Wired next fest 05, and the AI communication like the PF has. Advance it a few years along with the Computer brain cells being advanced in califorinia. You got yourself something practicly indisinguishable from human life. Its not a question of if, just when. Right now AI is on the last few feet of a steep hill. Once we cross that line, its all downhill, just like sputnik and the space race. So, 20 years? 30? 50?
I'd say 10-20 years. 30 years from now it will massively exceed human-scale intelligence (thanks to exponential growth) and the Singularity may even be underway.
See
and Vinge's original article:
I've been trying to download a copy of Harold cohen's AARON, an AI artist.
http://www.kurzweilcyberart.com/
the download link does not work for some reason.. or maybe its just my computer.
the download link does not work for some reason.. or maybe its just my computer.
Looks like they've moved the file at some time in the past 4 years. You'll find it via: http://www.kurzweilcyberart.com/KCATaaron/content/servlets/basicFTP.html
And I'm pleased to see it runs fine under WinXP (I haven't used it in years, since I was running Win98 I guess.)
And I'm pleased to see it runs fine under WinXP (I haven't used it in years, since I was running Win98 I guess.)
Yeah I agree, 10 years may be a little early though, i think i would go for 20 years. 30 for beyond ourselves.
Speaking of that, does anyone here beleive that when they become beyond us, will they overthrow humans? Or do you think we can "raise" AI like children, and if raised properly, they will be "good"?
Speaking of that, does anyone here beleive that when they become beyond us, will they overthrow humans? Or do you think we can "raise" AI like children, and if raised properly, they will be "good"?
The timespan depends more on how consciousness arises from the brain than how fast the computers develop. We still aren't completely sure how consciousness is produced in the first place, though we have a pretty good structural undertanding of the brain.
We don't know how much redundancy is built into the brain - evolution producing sub-optimally efficient circuitry (if it's similar to the redundancy built into our DNA it could be 80% or higher, so the same level of cognition can be achieved with 20% of the circuitry). But we will get there - it's just uncertainty within an order of magnitude or so.
If we can't initially build a conscious mind from scratch, then porting a synaptic-scale scan of a human brain may be the first source of computer consciousness.
If you haven't read Ray Kurzweil's The Singularity Is Near : When Humans Transcend Biology (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0670033847), then I would urge you to.
Will they overthrow us? I think it's likelier that we will merge with them - it'll start off as simple enough augmentation technologies (implants, knowledge downloads, brain memory upgrades, nanomedical devices, etc.) - we've actually already begun this: cochlear and retinal implants for the disabled are becoming more common, electronic reconnection of severed spinal cords is in the human testing phase now, and much experimental work is being done on interfacing neurons and electronic circuitry.
Some people will resist the new technologies, but the benefits will seem clear cut (wouldn't you like to be able to painlessly download the entire contents of the Library of Congress to a small brain implant for eidetic recall? Or the ability to play any musical instrument as well as the finest musicians in the world? Speak 2000 languages like a native? "Be" your favourite singer/actor/artist, with a memory implant that's indistinguishable from RL? Merge your whole mind with the mind of the one you love?) There simply won't be a clear-cut point at which anyone can say "stop here, and go no further", and the benefits will be irresistable to the vast majority of the population.
We don't know how much redundancy is built into the brain - evolution producing sub-optimally efficient circuitry (if it's similar to the redundancy built into our DNA it could be 80% or higher, so the same level of cognition can be achieved with 20% of the circuitry). But we will get there - it's just uncertainty within an order of magnitude or so.
If we can't initially build a conscious mind from scratch, then porting a synaptic-scale scan of a human brain may be the first source of computer consciousness.
If you haven't read Ray Kurzweil's The Singularity Is Near : When Humans Transcend Biology (
Will they overthrow us? I think it's likelier that we will merge with them - it'll start off as simple enough augmentation technologies (implants, knowledge downloads, brain memory upgrades, nanomedical devices, etc.) - we've actually already begun this: cochlear and retinal implants for the disabled are becoming more common, electronic reconnection of severed spinal cords is in the human testing phase now, and much experimental work is being done on interfacing neurons and electronic circuitry.
Some people will resist the new technologies, but the benefits will seem clear cut (wouldn't you like to be able to painlessly download the entire contents of the Library of Congress to a small brain implant for eidetic recall? Or the ability to play any musical instrument as well as the finest musicians in the world? Speak 2000 languages like a native? "Be" your favourite singer/actor/artist, with a memory implant that's indistinguishable from RL? Merge your whole mind with the mind of the one you love?) There simply won't be a clear-cut point at which anyone can say "stop here, and go no further", and the benefits will be irresistable to the vast majority of the population.
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