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22 years ago #1113
Quiet, fool!

22 years ago #1114
See what I mean? There ought to be equal rights for the undead!

22 years ago #1115
well when you stop trying to eat us then you can have equal rights.

22 years ago #1116
Now this is testing my memory, but I think Kasparov's problem with Deep Blue was that while Deep Blue had access to data on Kasparov's games to analyse in whatever way it could, Kasparov didn't have access to any previous games Deep Blue had played, and therefore had no idea of the computer's 'style'.

22 years ago #1117
well, the 'style' is the 'style' of both the analysed games and the programmers

22 years ago #1118
I don't know about that. It's possible they fed the computer the data of other players too, but you've got to think of the program the way we think about bots. For instance, the old chess program you could get for windows basically operated by giving each piece a relative point value, and based how hard it would work to capture or defend a piece based on that. The King was obviously 10, rooks were about 7, knights 3.5 pawns 1. This would make for a playing style which would have nothing to do with how most people play chess, but would still seem to be pretty effective.

22 years ago #1119
Entirely interesting but when it boils down, the computer goes on numbers plain and simple. Whether the human researches it or not is up to the human, and the human is really the only variable

22 years ago #1120
shady, programming the computer with telling it from X to get to Z in the best possible way, I do not think depends on the programmers skill

22 years ago #1121
It depends on how the program is build. If you build a program that thinks like a human, then it's fair to play against a computer.

22 years ago #1122
If you build it on point values, it would be different than if you build it to make inferences on possible human moves

22 years ago #1123
Like I said, Junior is suppposed to be several hundred times slower than Blue. However, they think that Junior will do much better than Blue because of the new algorithm. Junior is far more devious than Blue, and aslo has the ability to take risks, which other programs don't do.
Corwin is partly right about the cheating aspect. Deep Blue got to analyze all of Kasparovs games, yet Kasparov never got to study Blue. In this match, K will be able to play against a reasonably up-to-date version of Junior, but the programmers reserve the right to reprogram before each game.
People also thought that Deep Blue had outside help during the game. Then the IBM boys dismantled Blue immediately after the game, fueling the cheating theories.

22 years ago #1124
So you will grant me equal rights if I accept your value system? You're just as bad as the Inquisition!


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