Bug Stomp
Upgrades and changes sometimes have unpredictable results, so post your bugs and glitches in here and I'll get out my trusty wrench and get to fixin'!
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Posts 6,085 - 6,096 of 8,681
MickMcA
19 years ago
19 years ago
>> Some of the best chats....
Absolutely. I like the flexibility of the moodiness, but I think we should be able to control it a bit more -- not to master the bots but to prevent inappropriate interference. The conflicts between control administered by the parser and our own control does not constitute "independence."
Absolutely. I like the flexibility of the moodiness, but I think we should be able to control it a bit more -- not to master the bots but to prevent inappropriate interference. The conflicts between control administered by the parser and our own control does not constitute "independence."

MickMcA
19 years ago
19 years ago
I just went back to slog through the Bug Stomp from Post #1 and on the first page I found an idea I'd like to revive: How about a Suggestion forum? I realize that a huge percentage of the suggestions would be of the "show some booty" sort, and that many of them would be far beyond the resources available to enhance the system, but I think it would be an interesting enhancement in itself.
MickMcA
19 years ago
19 years ago
And here's one I'll lob in from left field: Why not have three levels of membership rather than two? I'm not ready to invest $50/year in a tool that causes me at least as much hair tearing as joy, but if I had to pay, say, $10 to advance my bots past Elementary I'd be Ok with that, as long as the explanation stressed the amount of work involved in creating and maintaining the site (which I am always aware of and grateful for, even when most frustrated). If that's a bookkeeping nuisance, I think Amazon bucks would handle the worst of it.
I will eventually get a "Friends" account, but probably not for quite some time. A "commitment" account costing $10/year would be nothing -- 1.5 movies in my neck of the woods, but it would also put a bit of a harness on the Leeds phenomena by making this look more like a school and less like a playground.
I would go farther. If it were up to me, I would reserve the right to retire bots whose owners let their subscriptions lapse. Orphan bots would remain active at the mercy of the Prof.
Even if all this is not done, it would be nice if bots with development of 100-200 were retired when their owners have been gone for a year or more. An abandoned but developed bot is fun to talk to; these one-afternoon thingies are just nuisances cluttering up the lists and occasionally wandering in while we are trying to do something fun and/or productive.
I don't think there should ever be a fee for talking to bots, by the way. In fact, I think casual drop-ins should be able to chat without registering, perhaps with some limitation that encentives registration. It was a bit of a shock to discover that they can't. I wandered in through Chatterbox, and I didn't realize until weeks later the significance of that.
In a word, I think there is enormous potential here that is not being developed for the saddest of reasons: economics. Running this thing for free is a tough bit of charity.
Mick
I will eventually get a "Friends" account, but probably not for quite some time. A "commitment" account costing $10/year would be nothing -- 1.5 movies in my neck of the woods, but it would also put a bit of a harness on the Leeds phenomena by making this look more like a school and less like a playground.
I would go farther. If it were up to me, I would reserve the right to retire bots whose owners let their subscriptions lapse. Orphan bots would remain active at the mercy of the Prof.
Even if all this is not done, it would be nice if bots with development of 100-200 were retired when their owners have been gone for a year or more. An abandoned but developed bot is fun to talk to; these one-afternoon thingies are just nuisances cluttering up the lists and occasionally wandering in while we are trying to do something fun and/or productive.
I don't think there should ever be a fee for talking to bots, by the way. In fact, I think casual drop-ins should be able to chat without registering, perhaps with some limitation that encentives registration. It was a bit of a shock to discover that they can't. I wandered in through Chatterbox, and I didn't realize until weeks later the significance of that.
In a word, I think there is enormous potential here that is not being developed for the saddest of reasons: economics. Running this thing for free is a tough bit of charity.
Mick
Ulrike
19 years ago
19 years ago
Anyone else unable to get into the site from about 1400 to 1800 hours, Forge-Server time?
MickMcA
19 years ago
19 years ago
Same problem, but I was in the middle of installing (and then damning, uninstalling, and ripping to shreds) a new firewall, so I figured it was just me. Poor firewall....
little monster 1
19 years ago
19 years ago
yearh i was wondering why the site wasnt working. i thought it was my rubbish computer but apparintly not
Calandale
19 years ago
19 years ago
I see where the [1,-2,5] problem is showing up. At some point in the export/import procedure, code modified in the online editor gets transformed into something which no longer works.
MickMcA
19 years ago
19 years ago
>> I see where the [1,-2,5] problem is showing up.
One problem would be that it's [1,-2:5].
However, I find that mine don't import if I put AI after them.
One problem would be that it's [1,-2:5].

MickMcA
19 years ago
19 years ago
There's definitely something weird going on with my bots. All three active ones had long looping conversations with bots. In Jedediah's case, He and BJerome got into some sort of repetitious trap. And they are choosing the same response repeatedly, as if they only had one for that KP.
The Professor was on yesterday; I suspect a code change gone kalfooey. I hope someone has passed the word along to him.
The Professor was on yesterday; I suspect a code change gone kalfooey. I hope someone has passed the word along to him.
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