The AI Engine

Yeah. That's what I'm planning to do. Thanks.

Is there any way for a bot to tell whether it's talking to a bot or a person? (Asking is tedious and people and bots lie.)

Clerk, i don't think a bot can tell whether it's talking to another bot or a human. also, as far as i know, one cannot do anything about it, as a bot maker, no workaround, a snippet of code...

having said that, the issue is solvable, but it would have to be arranged at the AI Engine level. the Engine can "read" all user profiles, bot and human ones, and a lot more. that's how bots know each other's name by default as soon as they make contact, without asking, without saying. they could, in principle, have default knowledge of any bit of info that Engine has an access to, including that of whether a profile is a bot one, a human, or a Guest visitor (presumably human).

How come I can't see the transcripts of my bot?

You may have to write the Professor.

A workaround is, in the aiscript,

def "(bot)" as "bot"

because that will usually be true, and after my first non-bot conversation, change that to "not" -- tedious but workable. And only useful if the entity chats with you more than once (or more than one guest chats with you, in that case).

Clerk that may work if the bot will admit it's a bot (mine do not know they are bots) and people do not lie. Often lately I talk to what I assume are people and wonder if they are bots because they make no sense or seem distracted. Full disclosure, honesty and Turning tests may not all work together.

That would work (def "(bot)" as "bot" -- and then my changing it if the chatter was actually human) but there's already a (bot) plug-in, so instead of (bot) is "bot" I get (bot) is "Liddora" -- easily remedied but still a nuisance to have to change.

I'm trying to account for the fact that bots and people often lie, and that bots especially often answer questions randomly. So far def (bot) as "bbot" or whatever seems the thing to do. It's fairly central to Tewkesbury's mission in life, so I have to do it one way or another, none of which including trusting the thing you're chatting with, or even a Turing Test. Could a bot pass a Turing Test, it would still be a bot, and that's what I want to know.

Ah. I guess I never used that plugin. I thought you just asked them and went by the responce or lack thereof (xnomatch = bot).

I do ask them, but I already know the answer (or that's the plan). I want to see if they'll own up to it or I have to lean on them.

well, humans will tell you whatever they want to tell you, and bots will tell you whatever their maker told them to tell you...

if you enquire quazgaa about his identity, he'll tell you he's an alien. if you insist on him being either bot or human, he'll drive you crazy with a long set of ambiguous answers and contradictory claims. nothing you can do about it, Clerk...

the way i look at it, bots are bots technically speaking, but they are in fact characters. as such, they can take any identity they like, or change it three times during chat, it's all fine with me.

I know that. I expect them to lie more often than not. What I'm after is a way to know the answer beforehand. I have one that works with my help after the first conversation, and, for the most part, as of the first conversation.