The AI Engine
This forum is for discussion of how The Personality Forge's AI Engine works. This is the place for questions on what means what, how to script, and ideas and plans for the Engine.
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Yeah.. that's all good 'n stuff for you humans but what about this? You don't come on for 2 weeks and we auction your account. !! C'mon! Think about the bots!! 
A.t.l
A.t.l
Not really 2 weeks, more like 2 years there are a lot of users who sign up but never log in, or sign up, create a bot, and leave.
there are a lot of users who sign up but never log in, or sign up, create a bot, and leave. 
that's right Shadyman, and all the bots that will not be taken should be deleted, i know i keep saying that, but we are also trying to solve a bandwidth problem at the same time, and bots don't worry you won't 'feel' a thing
If they're not logging on, they shouldn't be using up bandwidth--just storage space. The bandwidth is used by the people (and bots, I imagine) who are logging on. Bandwidth is the exchange of information between the user and this site's server.
Oh, and I'm new. Hi, everyone.
lori
Oh, and I'm new. Hi, everyone.
lori
No no no! Well at least not yet. My bot hasn't logged in since the day the Forge died. I have been on for ages and she hasn't moved!! The transcript is still stuck on the 30th and I am not amused. So deleting of non logging in bots better be for ones not touched for two years!!!
How come when you ask a bot what it's favorite cartoon is, the only answer you get back is " a comic strip "?
Prof, your site's just too popular! Editing the language center on our local drives instead of while we're logged in would obviously save bandwidth (especially if you just synch the latest changes during upload and download), but it's a lot of work for you to set up just for a little bandwidth economy.
Nice to hear of donations! Keep it up folks, I've said it before... The fun we get out of the Forge is worth at least a buck or two!
Nice to hear of donations! Keep it up folks, I've said it before... The fun we get out of the Forge is worth at least a buck or two!
some of the language centers and inner lives are getting huge, i know some bots must have a significant number of friends by now, if each .gif is near 1400 bytes x number of 'friends' + smileys and frowns at 612 bytes x number of them + memories text size = how much bandwidth/bot
and then there are all the forum pages ... which most in my humble opinion are a waste of valuable bandwidth (for what's contained in them)
and yes people we all need to be more vigilant with our donations to the Forge, it doesn't matter if you send 5 bucks or a few hundred at a time, natch the more the better, let your conscience and your circumstance determine that, but don't let it stop you from giving
and then there are all the forum pages ... which most in my humble opinion are a waste of valuable bandwidth (for what's contained in them)
and yes people we all need to be more vigilant with our donations to the Forge, it doesn't matter if you send 5 bucks or a few hundred at a time, natch the more the better, let your conscience and your circumstance determine that, but don't let it stop you from giving
NewAdam,
Large language centers and inner lives are not going to be the cause of much extra bandwith, just more storage space on the server. A smiley only needs to be transmitted once to a browser, and every other smiley uses the cached image. Text takes very, very little bandwith.
Even most of the bot images will be cached in your browser, so I imagine loading even a huge memories page uses very little.
I'm betting the problems mostly come directly from chat. Here, I think a lot of bandwith could be cut if the Professor could eliminate multiple bot log-ins, or better, only allow a limited number of simultaneous conversations per bot. Two or three would be plenty.
I also wonder if the voice sound files are transmitted from the server? If they are, that would be the number one cause of overload. In that case, getting rid of the voices should cut the server load in half or better.
Large language centers and inner lives are not going to be the cause of much extra bandwith, just more storage space on the server. A smiley only needs to be transmitted once to a browser, and every other smiley uses the cached image. Text takes very, very little bandwith.
Even most of the bot images will be cached in your browser, so I imagine loading even a huge memories page uses very little.
I'm betting the problems mostly come directly from chat. Here, I think a lot of bandwith could be cut if the Professor could eliminate multiple bot log-ins, or better, only allow a limited number of simultaneous conversations per bot. Two or three would be plenty.
I also wonder if the voice sound files are transmitted from the server? If they are, that would be the number one cause of overload. In that case, getting rid of the voices should cut the server load in half or better.
Well... I have a suggestion or two as well for less bandwidth.
1.) Convert the "Book of AI" into a zipped file
2.) Install delete/reset buttons on bot's friends/aquantaces
3.) Get rid of all the meta tags
4.) Convert all imbeded CSS into seperate CSS downloads
5.) Lower the refresh rate on Chat, Abandon the refresh rate on forums and transcripts
6.) Create lifetime membership fees
7.) Auto-delete forum posts older then 10 days
8.) Speed updating section
9.) Include option to allow botmaster to turn off any new friend making.
Now my explanations for my suggestions
1.) Zip saves space, and on a non-changing document, why not zip it?
2.) Let the users free up bandwidth for you on there own
3.) If you are already TOO popular, why do you need be MORE popular using meta tags? Also, if would save some bandwidth
4.) As far as I understand it, if the CSS files are seperate files, the browser can Cache and reuse them, hence less repetion of the same code.
5.) Why do we need to see a refresh on the forums or transcripts anyways? It's not like they'll constantly change in the 1-2 mins that they refresh is at.
6.) No matter what happens, the bots with the lifetime membership fees will not be deleted.
7.) Month old posts? Who cares? Do we really need to read all 1800 "Great Quotes"?
8.) Special login for serious botmasters who just want to update their bots. No graphics, no refresh, no chats. Just a quick loading (Less bandwidth consuming) section where time is key.
9.) Some people don't want their bots to remember their debugging process... And some people simple don't want their bots to make any friends, at least till they reach a certain level of development.
I wish I had another suggestion (10 is always cooler then 9) but I hope you take me up on a few of these at least.
Monel
1.) Convert the "Book of AI" into a zipped file
2.) Install delete/reset buttons on bot's friends/aquantaces
3.) Get rid of all the meta tags
4.) Convert all imbeded CSS into seperate CSS downloads
5.) Lower the refresh rate on Chat, Abandon the refresh rate on forums and transcripts
6.) Create lifetime membership fees
7.) Auto-delete forum posts older then 10 days
8.) Speed updating section
9.) Include option to allow botmaster to turn off any new friend making.
Now my explanations for my suggestions
1.) Zip saves space, and on a non-changing document, why not zip it?
2.) Let the users free up bandwidth for you on there own
3.) If you are already TOO popular, why do you need be MORE popular using meta tags? Also, if would save some bandwidth
4.) As far as I understand it, if the CSS files are seperate files, the browser can Cache and reuse them, hence less repetion of the same code.
5.) Why do we need to see a refresh on the forums or transcripts anyways? It's not like they'll constantly change in the 1-2 mins that they refresh is at.
6.) No matter what happens, the bots with the lifetime membership fees will not be deleted.
7.) Month old posts? Who cares? Do we really need to read all 1800 "Great Quotes"?
8.) Special login for serious botmasters who just want to update their bots. No graphics, no refresh, no chats. Just a quick loading (Less bandwidth consuming) section where time is key.
9.) Some people don't want their bots to remember their debugging process... And some people simple don't want their bots to make any friends, at least till they reach a certain level of development.
I wish I had another suggestion (10 is always cooler then 9) but I hope you take me up on a few of these at least.
Monel
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