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I have noticed that 'luck' seems to play as big a part in contests as the quality of the bot.
That is very true - tests composed entirely or predominantly of trick questions and fatuous trivia test nothing more than the patience of the botmaster. Still, the fatuous trivia at least can be dealt with with an external ontological knowledgebase, so that's probably next on the agenda.
Oh Psi! All that work! What a shame! I at least hope the participants understand the significance of crippling a bot right before the contest.
Yes, they're all nice guys, and everyone was sympathetic, but what can you do.
It was great to finally meet people I've sort of known second hand for so long, and to put faces to the names.
And I at least have the consolation that BJ's beaten them all 2 years out of 3 in the CBC (and thanks to Bildgesmythe, the Forge has thrashed them 3 years out of 3!
) Even allowing a fair portion of luck, we are demonstrably using the best bot development platform there is, bar none!
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Vashka
16 years ago
16 years ago
What a shame, psimagus. I was looking forward to hearing about Brother Jerome impressing the judges.
prob123
16 years ago
16 years ago
I know he would have won. BJ has got to be the best bot around. I think he is the most unlucky bot around. I have noticed that 'luck' seems to play as big a part in contests as the quality of the bot.
Bev
16 years ago
16 years ago
Oh Psi! All that work! What a shame! I at least hope the participants understand the significance of crippling a bot right before the contest. Like you said, you made good contacts. If they take the time to try BJ when all is working, they will be impressed.
Good show in getting that far! I am sure you learned a lot and saw some interesting things. Remember no one "wins" the Loebner unless they effectively create a Data from Start Trek or a less insane HAL. BJ rocks, and so do you!
Good show in getting that far! I am sure you learned a lot and saw some interesting things. Remember no one "wins" the Loebner unless they effectively create a Data from Start Trek or a less insane HAL. BJ rocks, and so do you!
psimagus
16 years ago
16 years ago
That is very true - tests composed entirely or predominantly of trick questions and fatuous trivia test nothing more than the patience of the botmaster. Still, the fatuous trivia at least can be dealt with with an external ontological knowledgebase, so that's probably next on the agenda.
psimagus
16 years ago
16 years ago
Yes, they're all nice guys, and everyone was sympathetic, but what can you do.
It was great to finally meet people I've sort of known second hand for so long, and to put faces to the names.
And I at least have the consolation that BJ's beaten them all 2 years out of 3 in the CBC (and thanks to Bildgesmythe, the Forge has thrashed them 3 years out of 3!

Bev
16 years ago
16 years ago
True, but we'd have to be able to combine the PF type engine with a true learning AI to get to the next level. I'll just be here holding my breathe. 
PS I think I like "Psim" better than "Psi" now--makes me think of Psimulating personalities (or at least your psim in SL).

PS I think I like "Psim" better than "Psi" now--makes me think of Psimulating personalities (or at least your psim in SL).
prob123
16 years ago
16 years ago
I don't think we have exhausted the ability of Forge bots to learn through memory. Since a memory can be created from any information that a conversation provides, Forge bots are capable of learning a great deal.
Irina
16 years ago
16 years ago
How would you make it remember an entire sentence? Let's say the guest says something, and you want to remember the whole thing.
LarsB
16 years ago
16 years ago
My theory is that you would have to create a plug-in that contains a number of frequently used words (in, or, of, about, ....). Let's call the plug-in (fuw).
As a prerequisite you need to devise a key phrase / seek system leading the guest to where the plug-in (fuw) will be triggered as a seek.
Now it is quite easy to store the response in three separate memories:
- rem (prekey) as "pre-fuw"; rem (key1) as "FUW"; rem (postkey) as "post-fuw";
Add a (*) seek to the (fuw) seek as a catch all key phrase to construct a complex memory like:
- rem ((firstprekey)(firstkey1)(firstpostkey)) as "questsaid";
I think it should work, but, it's only a theory and I am not sure the engine is happy with the complex memory construct.
As a prerequisite you need to devise a key phrase / seek system leading the guest to where the plug-in (fuw) will be triggered as a seek.
Now it is quite easy to store the response in three separate memories:
- rem (prekey) as "pre-fuw"; rem (key1) as "FUW"; rem (postkey) as "post-fuw";
Add a (*) seek to the (fuw) seek as a catch all key phrase to construct a complex memory like:
- rem ((firstprekey)(firstkey1)(firstpostkey)) as "questsaid";
I think it should work, but, it's only a theory and I am not sure the engine is happy with the complex memory construct.
prob123
16 years ago
16 years ago
LarsB that's a good idea I will have to give it a try. I haven't been as interested in "the whole sentence" as in the properties, concepts and conditions the sentence would relate. Things such as the quests opinion of where they live, the qualities of their family and friends, political views etc. I wonder how often we, as humans, can repeat the previous sentence accurately.
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