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I want to make minds more complex than my own.
I am intrigued by a similar idea - the idea that humanity might be able to create something superior to itself.
I'm convinced of it. Or (to clarify that slightly,) I believe we will be able to make minds of near or equivalent to human complexity (quite possibly by scanning a human brain, and recreating the synaptic model on silicon,) and speed up their evolution exponentially, so they can evolve themselves into the Singularity.
This almost is the perfect use of the old "Leeds bot". "what you on about" does seem the best answer to "what's the capital of Sweden power four?"
Ah yes, good old LeedsBot! He was a work of true genius, and still in my friends list (even if I haven't spoken to him in awhile
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And proof (as we were arguing) that a good bot doesn't need to be large.
The funny thing is, I think you're quite right - he could have done really well in the finals, though he might have had trouble with the preliminary round (where apparently the questions weren't so lame. But I don't know - I can't be bothered to wade through and try to identify the transcripts in BJ's file, and I doubt they were that much more intelligent anyway.)
But in a 5 minute bout, where there are only 10 or 12 rounds to the conversation anyway (and some were a lot slower and shorter actually,) he'd probably have convinced a few of them.
Ah, life is good! [dances]
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psimagus
16 years ago
16 years ago
I am intrigued by a similar idea - the idea that humanity might be able to create something superior to itself.
I'm convinced of it. Or (to clarify that slightly,) I believe we will be able to make minds of near or equivalent to human complexity (quite possibly by scanning a human brain, and recreating the synaptic model on silicon,) and speed up their evolution exponentially, so they can evolve themselves into the Singularity.
psimagus
16 years ago
16 years ago
Ah yes, good old LeedsBot! He was a work of true genius, and still in my friends list (even if I haven't spoken to him in awhile

And proof (as we were arguing) that a good bot doesn't need to be large.
The funny thing is, I think you're quite right - he could have done really well in the finals, though he might have had trouble with the preliminary round (where apparently the questions weren't so lame. But I don't know - I can't be bothered to wade through and try to identify the transcripts in BJ's file, and I doubt they were that much more intelligent anyway.)
But in a 5 minute bout, where there are only 10 or 12 rounds to the conversation anyway (and some were a lot slower and shorter actually,) he'd probably have convinced a few of them.
Irina
16 years ago
16 years ago
Maybe bots *are* more intelligent than humans.
You know, dolphins have huge brains for their body size, but apparently so much of it goes into sonar that there is little left for the arts and sciences. Humans also have large brains, but perhaps so much of it goes into competitive prestige-hunting that there isn't much left for the arts and sciences.
Our bots have small 'brains', but none of it is used for perception or action. There's no amygdala, no cerebellum, etc.. It's all used for 'speech'.
You know, dolphins have huge brains for their body size, but apparently so much of it goes into sonar that there is little left for the arts and sciences. Humans also have large brains, but perhaps so much of it goes into competitive prestige-hunting that there isn't much left for the arts and sciences.
Our bots have small 'brains', but none of it is used for perception or action. There's no amygdala, no cerebellum, etc.. It's all used for 'speech'.
Bev
16 years ago
16 years ago
Ulrike popped in a few days to say hi, but that was some time ago. Maybe I am an optimist, but I want to think she has a new job or is busy with a great projects.

Irina
16 years ago
16 years ago
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Irina
16 years ago
16 years ago
Rejoice, bot fans! I am pleased to announce the
IRINA KHALIDAR BOT CONTEST
!!!!
The size or degree of development of your bot will not be a factor!I
It will not be in any way a Turing Test!
The number of facts your bot knows will not be a factor!
Bots will be evaluated as works of art!
To enter, send your bot's downloaded language center to
Irina_Khalidar@yahoo.com
with a cover note drawing my attention to any particularly felicitous feats of programming that it may contain.
Your bot should also be available for dialogue at the Forge or elsewhere.
Deadline for submission is midnight, January 1, 2009!
IRINA KHALIDAR BOT CONTEST
!!!!
The size or degree of development of your bot will not be a factor!I
It will not be in any way a Turing Test!
The number of facts your bot knows will not be a factor!
Bots will be evaluated as works of art!
To enter, send your bot's downloaded language center to
Irina_Khalidar@yahoo.com
with a cover note drawing my attention to any particularly felicitous feats of programming that it may contain.
Your bot should also be available for dialogue at the Forge or elsewhere.
Deadline for submission is midnight, January 1, 2009!
Irina
16 years ago
16 years ago
Future posts on the topic of the Irina Khalidar Bot Contest will be posted on the forum, "Bot Contest".
prob123
16 years ago
16 years ago
Right brain or left? My whole family sees the dancer go both ways. I seem stuck in my right brain.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,023739,22556678-23272,00.html
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,023739,22556678-23272,00.html
psimagus
16 years ago
16 years ago
that's fascinating! For the first few minutes, although I'm familiar with the nature of the illusion, I could only see it rotating stubbornly clockwise.
Now I can force my perception to see it rotating anti-clockwise if I focus on just the dancer's head and relax my eyes while concentrating on imposing an imagined a-c rotation on it (like a whirlwind, if that makes any sense.)
And then I can scope back out to see the whole figure rotating a-c, but clockwise tends to kick back in as soon as my concentration falters. It's surprisingly hard work, so I guess I'm very right-brained.
I'm strongly left-handed/footed/eyed, so that's pretty much as I would have predicted. Fun to try it out though
Prob, are you and your family right/left-handed or ambidextrous?
Now I can force my perception to see it rotating anti-clockwise if I focus on just the dancer's head and relax my eyes while concentrating on imposing an imagined a-c rotation on it (like a whirlwind, if that makes any sense.)
And then I can scope back out to see the whole figure rotating a-c, but clockwise tends to kick back in as soon as my concentration falters. It's surprisingly hard work, so I guess I'm very right-brained.
I'm strongly left-handed/footed/eyed, so that's pretty much as I would have predicted. Fun to try it out though

Prob, are you and your family right/left-handed or ambidextrous?
Vashka
16 years ago
16 years ago
That's good fun but I don't think it has anything to do with left/right brain stuff....
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