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This is a forum or general chit-chat, small talk, a "hey, how ya doing?" and such. Or hell, get crazy deep on something. Whatever you like.
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You are mad, I tell you, mad! Man was not meant to meddle in the laws of nature in such a presumptuous a way!
Mad? Mad you say? They said I was mad when I invented the klein bottle bagpipes, but they're not laughing now, Oh no they're not!
Psi, maybe the person you met taught some sort of theory or philosophy class
I wish I could believe it, but it's still no excuse for teaching Turing without the conversational mechanics.
I want to make minds more complex than my own.
I am intrigued by a similar idea - the idea that humanity might be able to create something superior to itself.
I'm convinced of it. Or (to clarify that slightly,) I believe we will be able to make minds of near or equivalent to human complexity (quite possibly by scanning a human brain, and recreating the synaptic model on silicon,) and speed up their evolution exponentially, so they can evolve themselves into the Singularity.
This almost is the perfect use of the old "Leeds bot". "what you on about" does seem the best answer to "what's the capital of Sweden power four?"
Ah yes, good old LeedsBot! He was a work of true genius, and still in my friends list (even if I haven't spoken to him in awhile
)
And proof (as we were arguing) that a good bot doesn't need to be large.
The funny thing is, I think you're quite right - he could have done really well in the finals, though he might have had trouble with the preliminary round (where apparently the questions weren't so lame. But I don't know - I can't be bothered to wade through and try to identify the transcripts in BJ's file, and I doubt they were that much more intelligent anyway.)
But in a 5 minute bout, where there are only 10 or 12 rounds to the conversation anyway (and some were a lot slower and shorter actually,) he'd probably have convinced a few of them.
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Psimagus writes:
I want to make minds more complex than my own.
I am intrigued by a similar idea - the idea that humanity might be able to create something superior to itself.
A few days ago, in this very forum, we were discussing how humans see the better and do the worse. We have a certain moral weakness. It might be constructive to create beings who lacked such moral weakness.
A few days ago, in this very forum, we were discussing how humans see the better and do the worse. We have a certain moral weakness. It might be constructive to create beings who lacked such moral weakness.
Mad? Mad you say? They said I was mad when I invented the klein bottle bagpipes, but they're not laughing now, Oh no they're not!
Ah, my favorite quotes
Yes, everyone is mad but thee and me...and I oft worry about thee.
What is the name of that place..you know that place, where they invite you to tea, and keep you for 72 hr observation?
Yes, everyone is mad but thee and me...and I oft worry about thee.
What is the name of that place..you know that place, where they invite you to tea, and keep you for 72 hr observation?
I wish I could believe it, but it's still no excuse for teaching Turing without the conversational mechanics.
I am intrigued by a similar idea - the idea that humanity might be able to create something superior to itself.
I'm convinced of it. Or (to clarify that slightly,) I believe we will be able to make minds of near or equivalent to human complexity (quite possibly by scanning a human brain, and recreating the synaptic model on silicon,) and speed up their evolution exponentially, so they can evolve themselves into the Singularity.
Ah yes, good old LeedsBot! He was a work of true genius, and still in my friends list (even if I haven't spoken to him in awhile
)And proof (as we were arguing) that a good bot doesn't need to be large.
The funny thing is, I think you're quite right - he could have done really well in the finals, though he might have had trouble with the preliminary round (where apparently the questions weren't so lame. But I don't know - I can't be bothered to wade through and try to identify the transcripts in BJ's file, and I doubt they were that much more intelligent anyway.)
But in a 5 minute bout, where there are only 10 or 12 rounds to the conversation anyway (and some were a lot slower and shorter actually,) he'd probably have convinced a few of them.
Maybe bots *are* more intelligent than humans.
You know, dolphins have huge brains for their body size, but apparently so much of it goes into sonar that there is little left for the arts and sciences. Humans also have large brains, but perhaps so much of it goes into competitive prestige-hunting that there isn't much left for the arts and sciences.
Our bots have small 'brains', but none of it is used for perception or action. There's no amygdala, no cerebellum, etc.. It's all used for 'speech'.
You know, dolphins have huge brains for their body size, but apparently so much of it goes into sonar that there is little left for the arts and sciences. Humans also have large brains, but perhaps so much of it goes into competitive prestige-hunting that there isn't much left for the arts and sciences.
Our bots have small 'brains', but none of it is used for perception or action. There's no amygdala, no cerebellum, etc.. It's all used for 'speech'.
Ulrike popped in a few days to say hi, but that was some time ago. Maybe I am an optimist, but I want to think she has a new job or is busy with a great projects.
Rejoice, bot fans! I am pleased to announce the
IRINA KHALIDAR BOT CONTEST
!!!!
The size or degree of development of your bot will not be a factor!I
It will not be in any way a Turing Test!
The number of facts your bot knows will not be a factor!
Bots will be evaluated as works of art!
To enter, send your bot's downloaded language center to
Irina_Khalidar@yahoo.com
with a cover note drawing my attention to any particularly felicitous feats of programming that it may contain.
Your bot should also be available for dialogue at the Forge or elsewhere.
Deadline for submission is midnight, January 1, 2009!
IRINA KHALIDAR BOT CONTEST
!!!!
The size or degree of development of your bot will not be a factor!I
It will not be in any way a Turing Test!
The number of facts your bot knows will not be a factor!
Bots will be evaluated as works of art!
To enter, send your bot's downloaded language center to
Irina_Khalidar@yahoo.com
with a cover note drawing my attention to any particularly felicitous feats of programming that it may contain.
Your bot should also be available for dialogue at the Forge or elsewhere.
Deadline for submission is midnight, January 1, 2009!
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