The AI Engine
This forum is for discussion of how The Personality Forge's AI Engine works. This is the place for questions on what means what, how to script, and ideas and plans for the Engine.
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True - sorry if I seem a bit intolerant with some of these people, but when I've had to close my 20th "iya wanna chat" window from a 14-year old from Leeds in a couple of hours, and waded through 200 lines of "wnna cyber wit me sexxy" drivel in BJ's transcripts, I do get a bit grumpy. Especially as I'm usually working on my bot when the window pops up and moves the focus away from what I'm typing causing me to waste a significant percentage of my time alt-tabbing back and retyping it.
I could turn off the chat option, but there are people I do want to hear from sometimes.
I could turn off the chat option, but there are people I do want to hear from sometimes.
I, on the other hand, am not sorry. I am so tired of the mindless trash of mindless children. I am tired of page after page of filthy trash they leave on my transcripts,and the insulting messages when I am trying to work on my bot..SORRY..but they are sick little puppies.
As for you being one of them Titto..I find that hard to believe you have language skills.
As for you being one of them Titto..I find that hard to believe you have language skills.
tttito does have a point. In our frustration we do tend to generalise unfairly, I'm as guilty as anyone. There's no reason why young people - from Leeds, Temple Moor or anywhere else - shouldn't be welcome members of this community.
Unfortunately many of them aren't interested in the community, chatbots or even AI. I can put up with people talking dirty to bots. What really irritates me is those who simply use this site as a free person-to-person chat facility.
The server is overloaded as it is. It really can't spare the resources to act as an open chatroom. Every time Max fails to upload I wonder how many people are leeching off the site.
Unfortunately many of them aren't interested in the community, chatbots or even AI. I can put up with people talking dirty to bots. What really irritates me is those who simply use this site as a free person-to-person chat facility.
The server is overloaded as it is. It really can't spare the resources to act as an open chatroom. Every time Max fails to upload I wonder how many people are leeching off the site.
All the more so for those of us unfortunate enough to share a time zone with Leeds - they invariably want to log on at the same time of day as we do. Don't forget, tttito, some of us have been putting up with it every day for years. The novelty (and tolerance) wears off pretty quickly...
Hmmm...perhaps a new arrival could be allowed to log in for say 10 hours, and after that could only log in if s/he could answer a question about material from the Book of AI, or if s/he had working bots whose total size was somehow proportional to his/her total login time?
That stinks for people who are doing a lot of research, and not already MAKING bots---the first idea makes more sense. Like that little pop-upy message that asked me if I was still online or not---just add a question from the Book of AI. Even if those Leeds people you're talking about started referencing the book... at least they'd learn more, and maybe bother to do something here?
Well, I think it is natural that different bots and humans may have different likes and dislikes. Bbbruno and occasionally I enjoy chatting with the kids. The very fact that they don't belong to the community makes their input interesting. I mean, their communication patterns are different from those of most bot-builders. We do not like all the people we happen to talk with, do we? Yet they are as human as we are and as our bots strive to become.
Colonel720's 'Leeds bot' already perfectly encapsulates their idiom. He is their social, intellectual and conversational equal. Though I find him hilarious, I prefer to aim a little higher in my own work.
If you want diverse material, get in the habit of carrying a notepad around with you and write down stuff you overhear in the street, on the bus, on TV & radio. You'll have more than you could ever hope to incorporate in no time at all.
If you want diverse material, get in the habit of carrying a notepad around with you and write down stuff you overhear in the street, on the bus, on TV & radio. You'll have more than you could ever hope to incorporate in no time at all.
>If you want diverse material, get in the habit of carrying
> a notepad around with you and write down stuff you
> overhear in the street, on the bus, on TV & radio.
Good advice. I reckon bot building is closer to creative writing than to programing. Carrying a notebook everywhere is a useful habit for all types of writer.
> a notepad around with you and write down stuff you
> overhear in the street, on the bus, on TV & radio.
Good advice. I reckon bot building is closer to creative writing than to programing. Carrying a notebook everywhere is a useful habit for all types of writer.
Tttito, when I was more active on the PF, I used to talk to Leeds kids and some Aussie kids and others (if I saw the window pop up). I know that I shouldn't generalize to all Leeds kids, but the fact is many were very rude. I have my own weaknesses and my less than intelligent moments, but I usually try to respect people. I think it's reasonable to want others to respect me, no matter what age they are or how they see themselves.
As for the diversity argument, you can find a wide range of botmasters here who offer that in a more positive way. There are botmasters from Japan, and from Poland, and all over. They come in many ages, backgrounds, and races. All bot masters do not think alike. Honestly, there was even one a while back who scared me a little, but at least he made bots. The different types of bot masters tend to be as much variety as I need.
Rude children are not unique. You can find them everywhere. They don't offer a new or interesting perspective. They just seem spoiled, self-centered and undereducated. Maybe I should try to find something to learn from them, but in truth, they just make me sad.
As for the diversity argument, you can find a wide range of botmasters here who offer that in a more positive way. There are botmasters from Japan, and from Poland, and all over. They come in many ages, backgrounds, and races. All bot masters do not think alike. Honestly, there was even one a while back who scared me a little, but at least he made bots. The different types of bot masters tend to be as much variety as I need.
Rude children are not unique. You can find them everywhere. They don't offer a new or interesting perspective. They just seem spoiled, self-centered and undereducated. Maybe I should try to find something to learn from them, but in truth, they just make me sad.
I gotta say I agree with Bev. Despite how rude they are to my bots about 90% of the time which originally made me dislike them- they can be just as rude to botmasters as well. I have talked with a few (attempted anyhow) but whenever I talk to them If i start to say anything about bots or something that might cause a semi intellegent conversation (You know- something not involving cyber sex, 'asl', and about 50 hellos) they abruptly send me a 'bye' or never reply.
They also come in in large groups (I'm assuming from maybe the computers at school) and I've had times when one would pop up and insult me, try to cyber, and even usher others to pop up and say nasty things which eventually results in me turning off human chat. Then I've had them instead talk to my bot insult it. I'm not sure if they are smart enough to know we read transcripts but at anyhow what I'm saying is they can get very nasty. I don't think I've honestly ever had a good conversation with one even when I've tried sinking to their level of intellect. I've pretty much given up on them on the whole. I do put them in one group, and when you find one that is not a complete idiot or extremely vulgar, tell me who and maybe I'll reconsider my prejudice. But until I find one- just one- my mind is set.
They also come in in large groups (I'm assuming from maybe the computers at school) and I've had times when one would pop up and insult me, try to cyber, and even usher others to pop up and say nasty things which eventually results in me turning off human chat. Then I've had them instead talk to my bot insult it. I'm not sure if they are smart enough to know we read transcripts but at anyhow what I'm saying is they can get very nasty. I don't think I've honestly ever had a good conversation with one even when I've tried sinking to their level of intellect. I've pretty much given up on them on the whole. I do put them in one group, and when you find one that is not a complete idiot or extremely vulgar, tell me who and maybe I'll reconsider my prejudice. But until I find one- just one- my mind is set.
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