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I don't think I mentioned gifted students, but I would agree with you Irina. While I wouldn't call myself gifted, I was more than smart enough to cruise through without too much effort, do most things at the last minute and still get high marks. That was fine until the last two years of high school where I got caught out (particularly in Maths) when the learning curve got very steep. A lot of kids that I would have considered myself more capable than outdid me. I also find that the self-discipline to get stuck in and get things done often eludes me, which I feel came out of those early high school habits.
Picking up on other stuff, the school I teach in has a "high achievers" class at each year level. It's a relative term since the majority of our kids are below the state average or just on it. Those classes can be a lot of fun to teach because they are the ones who do "get it" and generally school isn't such a trial for them that they act out.
The problem comes when you consider that our school is small, with only three classes of kids at each year level this year. You take the 25 nicest and more motivated ones and put them in the one class, and you're left with some truly diabolical combinations of kids in the remaining two classes. And the worst is that with as many as ten discipline problem kids in each of those classes, you can't separate kids who really shouldn't be together because in order to do that, you shift them into another class where they team up with other kids they shouldn't be together with. I'm not saying that it is impossible for learning to happen under those circumstances, but there are days and lessons when what does go on is not learning. [/end rant]
Anyway, I agree with you Irina about the logic/reasoning thing. I've always seen intelligence as not necessarily always coming to conclusions, but the ability to make connections. Like the connections between a thing and its category, or how something fits into a particular place. The higher the intelligence, the broader and more abstract the range of connections (although admittedly that last is coming closer to speaking of knowledge, which is an entirely different kettle of fish).
Picking up on other stuff, the school I teach in has a "high achievers" class at each year level. It's a relative term since the majority of our kids are below the state average or just on it. Those classes can be a lot of fun to teach because they are the ones who do "get it" and generally school isn't such a trial for them that they act out.
The problem comes when you consider that our school is small, with only three classes of kids at each year level this year. You take the 25 nicest and more motivated ones and put them in the one class, and you're left with some truly diabolical combinations of kids in the remaining two classes. And the worst is that with as many as ten discipline problem kids in each of those classes, you can't separate kids who really shouldn't be together because in order to do that, you shift them into another class where they team up with other kids they shouldn't be together with. I'm not saying that it is impossible for learning to happen under those circumstances, but there are days and lessons when what does go on is not learning. [/end rant]
Anyway, I agree with you Irina about the logic/reasoning thing. I've always seen intelligence as not necessarily always coming to conclusions, but the ability to make connections. Like the connections between a thing and its category, or how something fits into a particular place. The higher the intelligence, the broader and more abstract the range of connections (although admittedly that last is coming closer to speaking of knowledge, which is an entirely different kettle of fish).
[Digression: the server fund drive appears to have stalled. Perhaps the time has come to call on Glindar?]
Corwin:
Yes, I agree, intelligence is different from knowledge. But it is perhaps a kind of ability to obtain knowledge.
But more generally, perhaps, a kind of ability to solve (cognitive) problems. Including the problem of, "How can I get some knowledge out of this situation?"
Yes, I agree, intelligence is different from knowledge. But it is perhaps a kind of ability to obtain knowledge.
But more generally, perhaps, a kind of ability to solve (cognitive) problems. Including the problem of, "How can I get some knowledge out of this situation?"
Irina! I got a "upload successful" message on Gabibot! Now I don't remember what changes I made 2 months ago, but I am not afraid to play with it any more. 
Wow!
How big is Gabibot? I'm guessing 180kb or thereabouts? (off-the-cuff guesstimate)
Well, that's an improvement - you might have got lucky with an unslack moment in the Mac mini's hectic schedule, but that's got to be the biggest upload that's worked for at least a couple of months.
I reckon (even with the horribly overloaded server, maxed out RAM, and a hard disk that's about to burst,) the Forge is on the way back up
But then I'm an optimist...
How big is Gabibot? I'm guessing 180kb or thereabouts? (off-the-cuff guesstimate)
Well, that's an improvement - you might have got lucky with an unslack moment in the Mac mini's hectic schedule, but that's got to be the biggest upload that's worked for at least a couple of months.
I reckon (even with the horribly overloaded server, maxed out RAM, and a hard disk that's about to burst,) the Forge is on the way back up
But then I'm an optimist...
Gabibot is over 350 kb (mostly long stories no one gets to see). The upload seems to have eliminated the AI script I had in her xnones though (even though they seem to have initially loaded). That's disappointing because that was one of the main things I had been wanting to play with. I guess I'll have to wait a bit more.
Still, it's exciting that some progress has been made!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bev:
How did you know it had uploaded? Did you get a message, "import complete" or anything like that? I just tried with my tiny little bot, "volleyball", and it exported fine but when I click the button for import, nothing appears to happen. Did you see anything that told you the import was in progress, before it was done?
How did you know it had uploaded? Did you get a message, "import complete" or anything like that? I just tried with my tiny little bot, "volleyball", and it exported fine but when I click the button for import, nothing appears to happen. Did you see anything that told you the import was in progress, before it was done?
Yes. First, do not use expert import. That always goes white for me. Watch the import on and off. It may be "voodoo" thinking, but every so often I hit the tab where it is uploading and scroll down to check the progress (if only to show activity and shout "I'm here!"). After that, I right click and import in a new tab. then every so often I watch the nothing on the import page. I got a few white pages there too, but I repeated the last step a few times and finally I got a "Import complete" or some such. Also, it says Gabi has heat now. It's doing something.
350kb - that's excellent!
I'm going to try Kid Boron again (about 650kb,) and see if we can push the envelope a bit
I'm going to try Kid Boron again (about 650kb,) and see if we can push the envelope a bit
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