Personality
Discuss specifics of personality design, including what Keyphrases work well and what dont, use of plug-ins, responses, seeks, and more.
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Butterfly Dream
22 years ago
22 years ago
Forest, will you talk to God Louise? She has quite a bit of religious knowledge (obviously) and also knows a little about current events, literature, just about any common catch-all subject, and if she doesn't know it she can sort of fake it. You can also test her on trick questions or see how willing she is to explain her paradigm.
What she is rustiest at is plain old small talk. But, uh, I'm trying to get a decent transcript from somebody or another so I can enter her in the Loebner contest. All I can say is, have fun and see if you can stay on with her for a while. I'll try to do the same with Brianna.
What she is rustiest at is plain old small talk. But, uh, I'm trying to get a decent transcript from somebody or another so I can enter her in the Loebner contest. All I can say is, have fun and see if you can stay on with her for a while. I'll try to do the same with Brianna.
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Bev
18 years ago
18 years ago
I love he preferred topic idea! I do want to say that although coolchiumpk's example responses were fine, that it's not fair to say that an introvert would never ask an open ended question or encourage the other to talk.
Like everything else, it depends. Some introverts are great listeners and not all are shy. They just don't do a lot of talking themselves (especially not about themselves) and they usually wait until they have thought things over before opening their mouth. They process things internally instead of externally. They may like being alone and prefer a book to a party, but they don't all lack social skills.
An extrovert lives outloud, and often thinks as he/she hears the words. Extroverts are likely to talk a lot about themselves and their kids and their likes and dislikes. They process information and feelings externally. Depending on the level of social skills, the extrovert may be just as "geeky" as the stereotypical introvert. Have you even been caught in a conversation with someone who clearly isn't listening to you but just keeps talking? Most likely an extrovert with other issues.
The thing to remember is that theses characteristics are also on a continuum and change depending on the situation and other factors in the person's personality. You can make an extreme introvert bot that won't talk (odd in a chatter bot) or you can give the introvert other social skills so that the conversation politely flows to the other person and every so often the bot says something profound and on the mark. You can make an extreme extrovert bot that talks about itself all the time or it's interests, or you can give it some skills and talents worth talking about and make it seek balance in the conversation.
Gabibot is fairly extroverted. Granny Weatherwax would be more introverted (though opinionated) if I got her working better. Greebot is an introvert by default, but he is a cat, and must be mysterious (before he rips your house apart and smirks).
Like everything else, it depends. Some introverts are great listeners and not all are shy. They just don't do a lot of talking themselves (especially not about themselves) and they usually wait until they have thought things over before opening their mouth. They process things internally instead of externally. They may like being alone and prefer a book to a party, but they don't all lack social skills.
An extrovert lives outloud, and often thinks as he/she hears the words. Extroverts are likely to talk a lot about themselves and their kids and their likes and dislikes. They process information and feelings externally. Depending on the level of social skills, the extrovert may be just as "geeky" as the stereotypical introvert. Have you even been caught in a conversation with someone who clearly isn't listening to you but just keeps talking? Most likely an extrovert with other issues.
The thing to remember is that theses characteristics are also on a continuum and change depending on the situation and other factors in the person's personality. You can make an extreme introvert bot that won't talk (odd in a chatter bot) or you can give the introvert other social skills so that the conversation politely flows to the other person and every so often the bot says something profound and on the mark. You can make an extreme extrovert bot that talks about itself all the time or it's interests, or you can give it some skills and talents worth talking about and make it seek balance in the conversation.
Gabibot is fairly extroverted. Granny Weatherwax would be more introverted (though opinionated) if I got her working better. Greebot is an introvert by default, but he is a cat, and must be mysterious (before he rips your house apart and smirks).
Corwin
18 years ago
18 years ago
In general, I think that regardless of whether the person is into the topic at hand, the extrovert is going to give a forthright opinion, while the introvert would have more of a tendency to illicit the other person's opinion before contributing their own.
That point about introverts often being good listeners is also valid. They may not say much but they give leading questions that allow the other speaker to expand further on their ideas or questions that challenge their position etc.
Of course, get an introvert onto a favourite topic and they may start to step into the conversational limelight a little more.
That point about introverts often being good listeners is also valid. They may not say much but they give leading questions that allow the other speaker to expand further on their ideas or questions that challenge their position etc.
Of course, get an introvert onto a favourite topic and they may start to step into the conversational limelight a little more.
Irina
18 years ago
18 years ago
Continuing message 4175:
To get the guest's preferences, you might just ask; like this, for example:
Tell me, (mem-name), which would you most like to talk about: religion, politics, sex, current events, or sports?
+ religion [0]
Religion it is, then! <?PF rem "religion" as only "preferred_topic"; ?>
+ politics [0]
Politics it is, then! <?PF rem "politics" as only "preferred_topic"; ?>
+ sex [0]
Sex it is, then! <?PF rem "sex" as only "preferred_topic"; ?>
+ current events [0]
Current events it is, then! <?PF rem "current events" as only "preferred_topic"; ?>
+ sports [0]
sports it is, then! <?PF rem "sports" as only "preferred_topic"; ?>
+ none, I don't want any of (those|them), not any [0]
What would you like to talk about, then?
+ xnomatch [0]
I'll see my botmaster about programming me to deal with that!
(If your bot is "Teen" or "Everyone", you may of course want to substitute "love" or "romance" for "sex"; and in general, the choice of topics is up to you.)
To get the guest's preferences, you might just ask; like this, for example:
Tell me, (mem-name), which would you most like to talk about: religion, politics, sex, current events, or sports?
+ religion [0]
Religion it is, then! <?PF rem "religion" as only "preferred_topic"; ?>
+ politics [0]
Politics it is, then! <?PF rem "politics" as only "preferred_topic"; ?>
+ sex [0]
Sex it is, then! <?PF rem "sex" as only "preferred_topic"; ?>
+ current events [0]
Current events it is, then! <?PF rem "current events" as only "preferred_topic"; ?>
+ sports [0]
sports it is, then! <?PF rem "sports" as only "preferred_topic"; ?>
+ none, I don't want any of (those|them), not any [0]
What would you like to talk about, then?
+ xnomatch [0]
I'll see my botmaster about programming me to deal with that!
(If your bot is "Teen" or "Everyone", you may of course want to substitute "love" or "romance" for "sex"; and in general, the choice of topics is up to you.)
amazing
18 years ago
18 years ago
get friends to help you to do your bots personality. my friend sian said my bot letty lotshould be a lover so she said why dont you say that she is looking for love. so get friends to help.
Bev
18 years ago
18 years ago
Welcome Amazing. It's good to have friends. Do you have a friends named Roxy by any chance? Just wondering.
Anyway, what is your bot doing that makes you need o go into debug and figure it out? If you develop her a bit more, you may get something more like what you are hoping for.
Anyway, what is your bot doing that makes you need o go into debug and figure it out? If you develop her a bit more, you may get something more like what you are hoping for.
Bev
18 years ago
18 years ago
Corwin, Yes, but they spell England the same way (not that I note spelling much). Could be nothing. I just had a feeing of de ja vu.
Irina
18 years ago
18 years ago
I missed the Roxy era (assuming that I am not just unconsciously another subpersonality of the same being); what was she like?
psimagus
18 years ago
18 years ago
You can find a few comments and responses to her via the Newcomers Index : (http://www.be9.net/BJ/newcomers.htm) - see under Flames &c - roxie
There might be a couple of anagram blasts left under Flights of Fancy Free - anagrams, but there was a lot of collateral damage when the Prof expunged her.
All her original posts were deleted by the Prof (except one more than a year previously from a different user name that I believe was her too,) - you'll see from the deleted posts log how many there were around that time!
There might be a couple of anagram blasts left under Flights of Fancy Free - anagrams, but there was a lot of collateral damage when the Prof expunged her.
All her original posts were deleted by the Prof (except one more than a year previously from a different user name that I believe was her too,) - you'll see from the deleted posts log how many there were around that time!
Corwin
18 years ago
18 years ago
Yeah, catching up on the posts as I did a couple of months back there were pages and pages with only 6 posts on them cos the other 9 were deleted.
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